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| DAJ User Info... | dear zombies/everyone, I love you. I love you so much I'm stressing out how to save you from your selves. You see, yer all under a big stupid spell that is depriving you of your sentience. An inundation of distractions... I've re-edited this letter 3 times now... mostly because it has been leading to an articulation of my frustration with most everyone. So... I figured out a while ago that an individual's happiness is directly related to the happiness of the environment... AKA my happiness is the world's happiness... and the world ain't happy. The system is holding all our children hostage. Greenpeace is a joke. Amnesty International is a joke. The money thing. If it needs money it is so fucked and unessential... but what else is there? This tent-city thing IS the answer. But everyone has been waiting for the catalyst. Sometimes I'm pretty sure I'm a part of that catalyst and it is trying. This character I've become... oh gosh. Essentially it all comes down to the usual reasons people want to pass me off, my insistence on the impossibility of choice; the fate thing. Over time I've figured out that telling people they're stupid fucking imbeciles because of their insistence that choice is real doesn't really open them to consider. I enjoy being this divine sociopath I've become (knowing suffering is illusion) because it doesn't really matter if I ostracize myself from even my closest friends. I would rather not lose my friends... at the same time, my friends are being stupid fucking imbeciles in their failure to duly consider fate. Not just because I want someone to believe me but also because an understanding of fate is necessary in being fearless and enjoying all the benefits and abilities of knowing our true parameters. There is no evil and I was brought up as generically as most everyone else.... actually I hope all my friends who insist on believing in choice just go kill themselves so some real work can start being done. So, I love you all and fuck you. David PS: you're God and there is no death... ultimately, I'm just talking to myself. - Mon, 4 Aug 2008 11:38pm | ||
| Berry McCocener User Info... | Daj finally snapped. i was going to ask who pissed in his cornflakes, but i suppose asking who pissed in his dumpster may be more appropriate. - Tue, 5 Aug 2008 12:23am | ||
| Chopper User Info... | Hopefully that was a suicide note... - Tue, 5 Aug 2008 2:21am | ||
| tom User Info... | Nah, it's the heat I think. He was looking pretty uncomfortable standing under a tree by the museum yesterday afternoon during the Harbour concerts. - Tue, 5 Aug 2008 11:40am | ||
| Jl User Info... | " love you so much I'm stressing out how to save you from your selves" lol fuck off you idiot. I happen to like my life and what I do; the last thing I need is this moron trying to tell me otherwise. I think chopper is onto somthing though... - Tue, 5 Aug 2008 1:01pm | ||
| Mike User Info... | "He was looking pretty uncomfortable standing under a tree by the museum yesterday afternoon during the Harbour concerts" Dont tell me he was enjoying a 'FREE' concert paid for by the very tax payers he despises so much? DAJ you are such a hypocrite.. live by your words if you feel so strongly and go into the bush to live in your tent trailer park so that you can truly live your life free of tax payers expense. Just make sure it isnt on Crown Land. - Tue, 5 Aug 2008 1:23pm | ||
| inhalien User Info... | "If it needs money it is so fucked and unessential... but what else is there? This tent-city thing IS the answer. " How is it the answer, David? Where will you get the tents, blankets, food? Will this come to you from the air as you spout your unintelligible blatherings? Will all manner of free things flow to you so you can live your ilbeggoten life and tell others to kill themselves. I'm starting to think you are just one big viral joke. Go get a job and start contributing to the society that helped raise your sorry ass and pays for your yearly shower and shave. - Tue, 5 Aug 2008 3:23pm | ||
| Endeløs User Info... | DAJ woke up on the wrong side of the box. - Tue, 5 Aug 2008 3:55pm | ||
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| DAJ User Info... | no escape... I can teach you how to be stronger than all the rage in the universe. - Tue, 5 Aug 2008 9:49pm | ||
| round em up User Info... | Wow....... You are truely a legend in your own mind.... - Tue, 5 Aug 2008 11:08pm | ||
| Tyler User Info... | why are you convinced that a city of tents is the answer? why do you never actually directly approach any of the millions of valid responses people have to your ramblings? why do you need to express them at all? a person who strongly believes in fate usually coincidently has a personality that isn't rebellious. maybe you should go hide in the woods for a while, like everybody would prefer. I don't find you inspiring, convincing, engaging, or even coherent. - Wed, 6 Aug 2008 6:32am | ||
| Jl User Info... | "I can teach you how to be stronger than all the rage in the universe" what a flake. "stronger than all the rage in the universe"- wtf is this? he probably thinks he's in a battle for greyskull... fucking looney. - Wed, 6 Aug 2008 10:34am | ||
| Mike User Info... | "why are you convinced that a city of tents is the answer" A city of tents probably isnt a bad idea.. Apparently its worked elsewhere. For the average street living type its perfect.. gets them off the street, and with their own little 8x8 plot to call 'home' maybe they can start rebuilding their lives or at the very least have some sanctity no matter how small.. DAJ on the other hand is a hypocrite.. he preaches at us to break free of the chains of society and money.. but his idea of a tent city doesnt seem to take into account that toilets, food and medication still cost money as do tents, blankets, fuel for heating in the winter, water etc. Generations of hippys have made it work in communes by escaping the confines of the very society he leeches from. If DAJ was true to his word, he would have left the big city lights behind many years ago, with an army surplus tent and some cooking pans and hit the backwoods of Van Isle for some true communal living off the land. Whole families have been raised in communes on this island, its happened for decades, but they do it on their own and we never hear about it (until the govt or logging companies evicts them to make a park or clear cut the zone ) But does DAJ choose to take this free route? I suspect its far too much work for him now that he has gotten used to the handouts of our local soup kitchens and community support system. - Wed, 6 Aug 2008 11:17am | ||
| inhalien User Info... | " If DAJ was true to his word, he would have left the big city lights behind many years ago, with an army surplus tent and some cooking pans and hit the backwoods of Van Isle for some true communal living off the land. Whole families have been raised in communes on this island..." Exactly, and I've met a few up in Sombrio, surrounding area. Look, the point we're all trying to make is DAJ is a hypocrite. HE shouldn't be in our faces or on the steps of Goverment asking for things that aren't his. He should be proving himself, living in the woods, eschewing a consumer society (which I agree with in part) and showing us how we can do the same. As soon as he does that, maybe we'll consider his statements. The problem is, he is a leech and the polar opposite of a hippie - Wed, 6 Aug 2008 8:11pm Edited: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 8:13pm | ||
| grimlord User Info... |  nuff said - Thu, 7 Aug 2008 10:12am | ||
| Aidan Logins User Info... | but He's right you know... sort of But DAJ man, I think you need to get over your self. There's a lot of enlightened people out there that know we are all gods (or God), that there is no death, that suffering is illusion... A lot of people who really understand these (and other) basic tenants of just about every religion and philosophical system in the last few thousand years. But you're missing out on the big one. Because you think you're better than everyone. You're not. Not even close. Sure, if you believe these things it's natural to feel bad for those who don't know... but teach them instead of telling them they're "being stupid fucking imbeciles" or anything like that. No one calls people like Gibran and Chopra and Krishna and Guatama crazy fools, but they say things just as out there and cryptic as you do... They just say it with a better intent. Try loving those you hate, and they will become those you love... if you know what I mean. Pissing people off won't change them. If you want change, change. I used to be like you. Until I saw some redneck assholes stomp a small animal. I thought "I hope someone fucking stomps on those assholes!" and my wise friend said aloud "I hope they learn." that's when I changed. see everyone has the potential to be a better person, to really know what's what. But telling them they're not as smart as you is the exact opposite of what will help them. Get over your self... you are just a man. - Thu, 7 Aug 2008 10:14am | ||
| grimlord User Info... | I think we all know better then to trust a lunatic. - Thu, 7 Aug 2008 10:14am | ||
| Chopper User Info... | If only that were true, grim. Some people were born to be sheep. And it's those sheep that allow places like Jonestown to happen, not the fools they choose as a 'flock' leader. - Thu, 7 Aug 2008 10:41am | ||
| darcy User Info... | "dear zombies/everyone, I love you. I love you so much I'm stressing out how to save you from your selves. You see, yer all under a big stupid spell that is depriving you of your sentience. An inundation of distractions... I've re-edited this letter 3 times now... mostly because it has been leading to an articulation of my frustration with most everyone. So... I figured out a while ago that an individual's happiness is directly related to the happiness of the environment... AKA my happiness is the world's happiness... and the world ain't happy. The system is holding all our children hostage. Greenpeace is a joke. Amnesty International is a joke. The money thing. If it needs money it is so fucked and unessential... but what else is there? This tent-city thing IS the answer. But everyone has been waiting for the catalyst. Sometimes I'm pretty sure I'm a part of that catalyst and it is trying. This character I've become... oh gosh. Essentially it all comes down to the usual reasons people want to pass me off, my insistence on the impossibility of choice; the fate thing. Over time I've figured out that telling people they're stupid fucking imbeciles because of their insistence that choice is real doesn't really open them to consider. I enjoy being this divine sociopath I've become (knowing suffering is illusion) because it doesn't really matter if I ostracize myself from even my closest friends. I would rather not lose my friends... at the same time, my friends are being stupid fucking imbeciles in their failure to duly consider fate. Not just because I want someone to believe me but also because an understanding of fate is necessary in being fearless and enjoying all the benefits and abilities of knowing our true parameters. There is no evil and I was brought up as generically as most everyone else.... actually I hope all my friends who insist on believing in choice just go kill themselves so some real work can start being done. So, I love you all and fuck you." Dear people who don't see things as I do, You're all fucked. None of you are good enough to know you're fucked, but I know. I'm good enough to know. I've gone over this letter 3 times now, mostly because, without proper education (be it social or personal), I find it hard to put my ideas in a text format. I figured out a week back that a person's environment is relative to their mood and outlook. If I hang out at a free concert with some top acts, I might feel disgust for everyone else but me. One of capitilisms outputs is alienation from labour. Groups like Greenpeace and Amnesty are just trying to better the symptoms of that, rather than try to change our socio-economic system, and, had I any money, I don't think I would want to give it to them. This tent city things looks pretty cool though. Somebody else will buy me supplies, and I can sit on my plot of land soaking up my own brilliance. I want it to happen, but not many people think it will work really well. I don't care. I know what's better for everyone. I know that sounds really arrogant and a tad selfish, but it's not. I'm brilliant, why hasn't anyone seen this yet? You know what? If you can't deal with my awesomeness, then can go and kill yourself. SRSLY Translated? - Fri, 8 Aug 2008 10:52am | ||
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| Mofo User Info... |  "...the usual reasons people want to pass me off, my insistence on the impossibility of choice; the fate thing." However, by his own admission, chosing to ostracize himself has caused him to lose friends... "it doesn't really matter if I ostracize myself from even my closest friends. I would rather not lose my friends...at the same time, my friends are being stupid fucking imbeciles " Does this sentence not, at the very least, imply a choice? Did'nt you (DAJ) CHOOSE to put your own head up your own ass? That many people can't be wrong...(although I'm rather sure that you throw around the term "friend" rather loosley...leaving you with MAYBE a tally of 2 lost friends) - Tue, 12 Aug 2008 4:01pm Edited: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 4:02pm | ||
| Mofo User Info... | ...I saw that pic and HAD to add it... kinda reminds me of DAJ trying to figure out how to set up a tent...oh wait, you need supporters to hammer in the pegs there juicebox! - Tue, 12 Aug 2008 4:04pm | ||
| trevor corey User Info... | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMnKA8QXNmI&eurl=http://forums.chasermag.com/showthread.php?p=671526 - Wed, 13 Aug 2008 2:28am | ||
| Chopper User Info... | You really need to stop posting drunk Trev. No idea wth that vid has to do with the topic of the thread. - Wed, 13 Aug 2008 10:22am | ||
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| evilkleg User Info... | "I can teach you how to be stronger than all the rage in the universe" Sounds like a line out of Star Wars. Just call him Darth DAJ. - Wed, 13 Aug 2008 2:58pm | ||
| 1986 User Info... | whats your drug of choice? peyote? MDMA? nitrous oxide?.....so we know which NOT to do. - Thu, 14 Aug 2008 12:56am Edited: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 12:56am | ||
| stew User Info... | DAJ- I think you are wrong in presuming people don't think they have any choice-I would argue that most people you have talked with regarding fate and choice believe actions are free in a limited, pre determined sense. People act based on the options available, and choose based on the merit of these options. Attacking people without any prior knowledge of the fatalist/free will argument comes across as pathetic on your part. Moreover, if your tent city/homelessness/shelter/social right issue is predetermined as fate, what difference does it make if people participate in the process or not? You have no right to force people to believe in what you consider important; it makes YOU no better than any tyrant. Happiness: Again I disagree, I would argue with all the shit the world is going through-people are happy. Travel to any third world country-where conditions by our standards are despicable-and you will find happy people. Humans have an amazing ability to persevere, even in the ugliest of conditions. I have seen this first hand so no need to counter. Happiness itself is a pretty subjective term as well, one persons happiness is another's misery is it not? I'm pretty happy not taking part in your process-whats so wrong with that? If you want to make the world a better place great, but that is on you to pursue and not force on anyone else. The move you make from tent city to fate is a strange one as well. Like I mentioned before, not only do I think it works against your argument of persuading people to become involved, but it makes you look like a pompous ass, and no one one wants to listen to one of those. - Sun, 17 Aug 2008 2:19pm Edited: Sun, 17 Aug 2008 2:24pm | ||
| Mike User Info... | further proof that DAJ is the leader of all flakes is that he makes these posts but never intelligently responds to any of the feedback he receives from them. - Mon, 18 Aug 2008 10:07am | ||
| Aidan Logins User Info... | So there's two philosophers chillin on a bench at the park. Call them Bob and DAJ. DAJ says "there is no free will." Bob replies, "but of course there is." DAJ: "nope." Bob: "yes there is." and so on back and forth. No argument could persuade either... Until Bob gets really upset all of a sudden and jumps off of the park bench and pulls a knife on DAJ. Bob yells "There IS free will! I'll fucking cut you DAJ!" and DAJ says, "woah dude, no need to get upset. Control yourself, man." So Bob says "ah, thanks for proving my point." and that was the end of that. - Mon, 18 Aug 2008 10:46am | ||
| stew User Info... | DAJ I would like you to propose a solution regarding the ontological argument of past & present on one hand and future on the other. We can not change the past/present because they are real, have already happened and are fact. The future however is not real, and open, thus it can be affected by what happens now. In essence, truth statements/ future propositions may be true at one time and not at another - to claim that present actions are powerless to affect the future and "logical" is not entirely sound on your part. Claiming that people who "pass you off" as moronic isnt entirely justified, there are considerable grounds for criticizing your position (and rather poorly explained one at that). - Mon, 18 Aug 2008 11:01pm Edited: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 11:06pm | ||
| Nicholas Antoni Marek Gibas User Info... | CORRIN FOR TEH WIN - Mon, 18 Aug 2008 11:24pm | ||
| Aidan Logins User Info... | "The future however is not real" FUUUuuCK! I was totally counting on the future... - Tue, 19 Aug 2008 2:20pm Edited: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 2:20pm | ||
| DAJ User Info... | stew, the present being unchangeable means the future must also be unchangeable. Consider how it could be true that you did not choose to write what you did. - Wed, 20 Aug 2008 12:41pm | ||
| trevor corey User Info... | I choose to go smoke some weed in my future. Actually I'll smoke some right now, in the present. - Wed, 20 Aug 2008 12:55pm | ||
| stew User Info... | DAJ Rather than assume your premise/articulate your argument for you: explain to me why should it follow from the fact that it was true I posted on livevictoria Aug 18, 11:06 pm, it was necessary that I should? - Wed, 20 Aug 2008 11:00pm | ||
| trevor corey User Info... | As I look back, I remember I smoked some weed in my past. I had no choice. - Thu, 21 Aug 2008 12:28am Edited: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 12:29am | ||
| DAJ User Info... | stew, it was the only thing your experience could have you do... you must have been you and the world must have been the world in that moment. - Thu, 21 Aug 2008 9:24am | ||
| J. Peatman User Info... | DAJ, now that you are actually responding to people, please indulge me in answering a question of mine from the thread about tent cities: Everyone knows that you can only have 30-40 people taking a crap in the surrounding bushes for so long. I'm sure you must have thought this more practical side of your plan through. What did you have in mind for a sanitation system at these cities? - Thu, 21 Aug 2008 11:29am | ||
| stew User Info... | DAJ, So to paraphrase: if what someone says at a certain time is true, then the state of the world at that time must be such as to make it true. logically then, does that not raise problems in regards to statements of the past? Suppose I say "The Woolly Mammoth roamed here (British Columbia) 150 000 years ago" For this to be true, must the present state of the world be such as to determine that it is? - Thu, 21 Aug 2008 11:58am Edited: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 11:59am | ||
| DAJ User Info... | stew, absolutely. everything that exists in the now could only exist because the past was what it was. the future can only be what the now will determine it to be.... so, where does that leave love? we'll see. doesn't really matter though. if there is purpose or if there isn't it doesn't affect the fact that there is no such thing as choice. although, there is a confidence to be had knowing we no longer need waste time with resentment or hate as all people are products of their experience... a way to swim without fear, naturally saving the world instead of stressing out. I digress. it is interesting to note that fate was generally accepted up until radio and tv came out... peace - Thu, 21 Aug 2008 5:05pm | ||
| DOOMHAMMER User Info... | it is also interesting to note [random insult] before radio and tv as well. - Thu, 21 Aug 2008 6:13pm Edited: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 6:13pm | ||
| Aidan Logins User Info... | "it is interesting to note that fate was generally accepted up until radio and tv came out..." That's actually not true. It just isn't. I'm sure you must have read some philosophy and history in your time. And the question of fate has been pondered by all great men and many not-so-greats as well, for hundreds of years (probably thousands, but not so well documented). No one has an answer yet, and it hasn't made a difference. I think the problem isn't whether or not there is fate- I think the problem is in the way we're asking the question. We come up with these concept words and then try to fit them into the way things are. Some people find fate to be a nice idea- so their mind naturally sees things that hint at fate and they say " LOOK! PROOF!" Others want the opposite, therefore see the opposite, therefore say the opposite. I don't think there is fate. I don't think there is no fate. The whole concept of either/or is ridiculous. Things are the way they are- we shouldn't pigenhole existence into genres like we do with music... Some things we can change. Some things we cannot. Somethings no one even knows happens until it's over. Just be, and quit worrying about it. - Thu, 21 Aug 2008 10:54pm Edited: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 10:54pm | ||
| Mike User Info... | DAJ why dont you answer J Peatmans question. - Fri, 22 Aug 2008 10:06am | ||
| J. Peatman User Info... | Thanks. DAJ, as you keep ignoring my legitimate question, I think it's safe to assume that you really have no clue what you are getting yourself into with these tent cities. But don't worry. The taxpayers will clean up the mess, as usual. - Sat, 30 Aug 2008 12:32pm | ||
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| KIMBERLEYKAOS User Info... | My friend Elizabeth, speaks very highly of you DAJ.... :) - Wed, 8 Oct 2008 1:49am | ||
| Jl User Info... | ... lol ... .... lol .... ..... lol ..... how could anyone speak "highly" of a hypocritical sociopathic leech on society? enjoy the weather yet, Daj? - Wed, 8 Oct 2008 9:11am | ||
| KIMBERLEYKAOS User Info... |  ZOMBIE WALK! :) - Sat, 25 Oct 2008 3:07am | ||
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