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The Slaughter Starts
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| matt t User Info... | The corporate news network shows pictures of the 'decapitation strike' going on in Iraq. The slaughter starts, and innocents die. A war the majority of U.S. people said they wouldnt support without U.N. approval. A war the former U.N. head said would be illegal and a mistake. A war the people of the world tried to stop. Acceptable civilian losses, just that phrase seems wrong. I love that arguement 'Well saddam would probably just kill them himself anyways.' To me this seems so wrong, and hopefully no weapons of mass destruction are found. Got to give Bush credit for one thing though, he waited till prime time to start it. - Wed, 19 Mar 2003 9:38pm | ||
| Anonymous | Our Protesters�and Theirs By Chris Weinkopf FrontPageMagazine.com | March 19, 2003 SOME 20,000 intrepid, peace-loving activists turned out last week to protest against their government, its unjust policies, its war-mongering president and his utter disregard for international opinion. The protest was held in Kirkuk, Iraq�outside the Baath Party�s main administrative headquarters. The demonstrators were calling for Saddam Hussein�s overthrow. True, this protest didn�t generate as much attention as the �anti-war� rallies staged last weekend in a Portland, San Francisco, Washington, and elsewhere, where the America-hating left compared President Bush to Adolf Hitler and pleaded for Hussein�s prolonged hold on power, but there�s an explanation for that�beyond the establishment media�s obvious sympathy for the �anti-war� effort, that is. The main reason we heard little and saw nothing from the Kirkuk protests is that there were no reporters there. The only evidence the world has that the event took place at all is a number of second-hand reports. That�s because Iraq�which assigns an official government minder to shadow every foreign correspondent�doesn�t allow the media access to its dissidents. For that matter, it doesn�t even let foreign correspondents use their own satellite phones to transmit stories back home. That�s how tightly Hussein�s fascist regime regulates the flow of news. And it�s not as though protests are some everyday occurrence in Iraq, complete with celebrity appearances and a flurry of advance publicity. In Iraq, demonstrating against the president and his regime is a serious crime, the usual punishment for which is extensive torture followed by death. At great personal risk, opposition forces have become bolder and more vocal in recent weeks because they�re optimistic that Hussein�s reign of terror will soon come to an end. That�s to say, America�s resolve has already made Iraq a freer place, and the liberation hasn�t even started yet. Still, Iraqi protesters voice their opinions at their own peril. Last week, in the al-Hurriyya suburb of Baghdad, Hussein�s security forces arrested a civil servant for preparing to flee the country. With war only days away, the government has issued strict orders for all civilians to stay put, the purpose being to drive up the number of innocent casualties after hostilities begin. To make an example of this poor soul, Hussein�s butchers tied him to a street pole and ordered passersby to watch as they cut out his tongue�then left him to bleed to death. Relatively speaking, he got off lightly. He could have been forced to watch his wife or children get raped and killed, another of the regime�s more creative forms of punishment. Ann Clwyd, a British Labour Member of Parliament charged with cataloging Iraqi war crimes, reports even more ghastly stories of Iraqi abuses�humans dropped into giant shredders and ripped limb from limb, menstruating women suspended by their legs in a barbaric effort to humiliate them. This is the regime we�re removing, the one from which America�s courageous men and women in uniform will soon be freeing the Iraqi people. It�s also the regime that America�s �anti-war� protesters regularly take to the streets to protect, nominally in the interest of the Iraqi civilians who stand to die in an invasion. For some reason, the protesting set doesn�t much worry about the Iraqi civilians who die every day under Hussein�s cruel reign. To them, dying for fascism is somehow less tragic than dying for freedom. This is the same regime America�s protesters hold out as morally superior, or at least morally indistinguishable, from their own democratically elected government. Of course, it�s easy to make outrageous and morally obtuse statements about your own government in a country that maintains the right to free speech and respects the civil liberties of all its citizens. It�s great sport to denounce your president as a murderer or a fascist when you can rest comfortably knowing that he will never murder you our submit you to fascistic subjugation. It�s a different story Iraq. Another anti-Hussein demonstration last weekend, this one waged by Iraqi Shi�ites in the holy city of Kerbala, was �violently suppressed after the intervention of militiamen loyal to Saddam,� according to news reports. In ethnically Kurdish areas, Iraqi forces have been rounding up young men, Gestapo-style, for fear that the Kurds will mount a revolution once the war begins. �There is a campaign to arrest young people, especially at night,� one 21-year-old Kurd told Knight Ridder. �The other day in the Iskan neighborhood, (Iraqi officials) cut the telephones so people could not speak to each other,� claims another. Yet despite the risks, a good number of brave Iraqis are protesting�and more�hopeful that after a lifetime of oppression, freedom is coming. Saboteurs staged a successful strike last week against the Iraqi railway system. Vandals have begun trashing the ubiquitous Saddam posters that hang on doors throughout the country. Opposition leaders in Kurdish-controlled territories are busily collecting thousands of surrender letters from Iraqi political and military leaders that take effect the moment war begins. When that happens, Iraqi protesters will tremble in fear while hanging on to hope. American protesters, on the other hand, plan to greet the start of the war by tying up crucial police and security services�services that could be needed in the event of a terrorist attack�by blocking federal buildings, deliberately creating traffic jams and disrupting commerce. In Iraq, protesters risk their lives to denounce tyranny. They stand in stark contrast to American protesters who risk nothing to preserve it. The day can�t come soon enough when the Iraqi protesters get the freedom they crave, the same freedom America�s protesters take for granted. - Wed, 19 Mar 2003 10:07pm | ||
| matt t User Info... | There are two sides to every story, but there are better ways to go about doing things than launching 40 missiles into a city. Thats my opinion atleast. - Wed, 19 Mar 2003 10:37pm | ||
| Anonymous | LOL! Hey check out the bullshit website that shit article came from - the titles of the articles are jokes in themselves: Why the left loves Osama, Should a patriotic american attend ralies organized by communists? its almost like its parody! - Wed, 19 Mar 2003 10:38pm | ||
| Anonymous | hey yeah thats good, not in our name's terrorist connections! - Wed, 19 Mar 2003 10:44pm | ||
| readyforit | how about the peace through superior firepower t-shits they've got going. - Wed, 19 Mar 2003 10:46pm | ||
| Virge User Info... | I feel like i'm going to implode.. I was too young to be much interested in the gulf war, and way too stoned to catch much of the Kosovo bombings, but this is eating me alive./ I feel shame for the fact that humanity has evolved into such a greedy, incompasionate species. I also feel defeated in that most of the world which i am a part of is opposed to this massacre and yet we have not been able to stop it. Oh well, gotta keep trying! = ) - Wed, 19 Mar 2003 10:48pm | ||
| Anonymous | Time to wake up Virge, and face the reality of mankind. You remind me of a cheech movie where he and this other guy come out of a trip into the future. hahaha - Wed, 19 Mar 2003 11:41pm | ||
| Virge User Info... | ok i didn't read that article before i posted before.. i thought that you were kidding about the peace through superior firepower tshirts. THAT'S the mentallity activists are protesting against, not to preserve Hussein's stranglehold. i would have to say that looking around the site that article came from has made me an angrier person. damn near every instance of the word peace is used with quotation marks, protesters are mis-labeled "america-haters", clearly there is an effort to keep the public paranoid and pretty much pro war. Their article on "not in our name linked with the web of terror" was written by a retard and makes hardly any sense at all. Yup, i'd have to say that is one of the most biased, and (to me) scary web sites i've ever seen. thanks for bringing that to light. - Wed, 19 Mar 2003 11:49pm | ||
| Virge User Info... | the river is on fire, man... - Thu, 20 Mar 2003 12:04am | ||
| Spark | they've started fighting in Afgahnistan again too. apparently, the "al queda" has forces there? - Thu, 20 Mar 2003 12:24am | ||
| Virge User Info... | yea, who can tell? they all look the same - Thu, 20 Mar 2003 1:13am | ||
| Anonymous | I'm so glad I came home, and back to this thread, to find some people on here who are paying attention. thanks guys. I can sleep a bit better now. - Thu, 20 Mar 2003 3:46am | ||
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