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DAJ
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Loitering charges dropped- resume on Monday

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Good day and love to you all.

After a month and a half of waiting and respecting the condition to not go to the library the 'crown' dropped the charges. Sarah and I intend to resume the occupation of the library courtyard on Monday (June 11th), again until the no loitering signs are removed. If it means a judge confirming the truth, that 'no loitering' signs are not only absurd but criminal as well, so be it. As in previous courtly encounters I will get justice or I will make them kill me. Supporting this action is good and easy- just show up. I imagine we will be here for when the library opens Monday morning.

The power of patience be with us all ('cause we're going to need it to maintain our sanities in a world that has over-populated itself a hundred fold while relying on corruption).

in peace and freedom,

David Arthur Johnston

Victoria, BC, Canada

[email protected]

home page- http://www.angelfire.com/apes/hatrackman - Thu, 7 Jun 2007 9:53am
J
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"...'cause we're going to need it to maintain our sanities in a world that has over-populated itself a hundred fold while relying on corruption)..."

dude go fuck yourself. How can you say that we live in an overpopulated world when canada itself has a square mile for everyone that lives here? There are dense city cores around the world that have been around much longer than the history of canada and that can attribute to the overpopulation of that REGION. Im sure some people will still fire back at me telling me to look at the whole picture rather than our little island bubble we live in. Well that same principal applies to you david, stop this fucking diatribe on this messageboard cuz you really have no support here. Look for a bigger better more accepting place than here and maybe someone might find your rantings of use; but for now, your just plain ol' nutz.
Peace be with you in your findings, and hopfully we DONT cross paths. - Thu, 7 Jun 2007 1:50pm
trevor corey
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. - Thu, 7 Jun 2007 2:47pm
Mr. Hell
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They wouldn't be pissed at your ilk hanging around there if everyone showed respect by cleaning up after themselves and not begging people for nickels and cigarette butts.
And how do you think the library came to be, offering you endess books to read free of charge? TAXES.
Did you or your loiter-buddies pay into that? If not, then maybe you don't have any right to be there. - Thu, 7 Jun 2007 4:18pm Edited: Thu, 7 Jun 2007 5:50pm
Doc
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J I think you hit the nail right on the head brother. As for DAJ and his library occupation, if I see you come within 20 feet of my kid while I'm trying to take him to get some books, I'll kick you loitering ass all the way over to the mainland so they can deal with your crap! Grow up! If you want to live in this world, try contributing something useful to it. Fuckin' wanker.

~Distinctly lacking peace,

Doc - Thu, 7 Jun 2007 7:26pm
KnifeGhost
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J, Doc, how is DAJ a threat to either of you? Or to anyone? - Thu, 7 Jun 2007 11:42pm
J
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you dont have to be a threat to not be liked.
I personally have no feelings of threat from DaJ as i've said if i see his shit lying about; i'll toss it, just like i'll toss him if he even so much as speaks to me. Why? because the last thing victoria needs, as with the rest of the world, is a bunch of anarchist hippie's thinking the world should be free just because they aren't capable of leading a normal life(to what we, the rest of society think is normal). I cant stand the amount of protest(not the reasons, but the people that are specifically "PROTESTERS"). What really grinds my gears is that I give up my money for taxes without problems and hey we get a return the next year, and this guy comes along and tries to tout his non-tax paying ways and sleeping on ground which is not his, and simply making our city look worse. Im sorry if you dont have as much pride in your city as I do, but personally if it were allowed I'd ship'm all to san pat in italy; then its their problem lol(thankfully the world doesn't revolve around my thinkings) - Fri, 8 Jun 2007 1:11pm
DAJ
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dear J,

the world has made you retarded- thinking there is justification to hate; thinking that evil is real. You are not alone... a lot of people and families have been buying into the system for a long time, so much work involved in trying to make their ways, so much that we could not consider that we have been foolish from the get go. When the 'big one' comes it will be good in many ways- those who have been paying so long for a plot of land that demands taxes be paid every year will no longer have to concern themselves with the crown taking it away at a whim.

it is really easy, though at this point your addiction to fighting and subtle spite will be wanting to exorcise itself- a true want of truth will consider fate and with that the knowledge of how all things move- that's when the job of being a grownup human begins- securing freedom for our children, not condemning them to a world where only the compliant and retarded can succeed.

have no doubt that pride is the root of all goofdom- that everyone exclaiming pride as a virtue has been under a massive delusion that is the root of all the suffering in the world. You are not the originator of the thoughts you are having right now. You are God and the only thing that exists... and you still have never made a choice and never will.

We'll see where your inspiration will lead now. Want to do something about it, punk... do ya?

peace - Fri, 8 Jun 2007 3:43pm Edited: Fri, 8 Jun 2007 3:45pm
trevor corey
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Is that a backbone? I'm so proud of you Daj!


......beware the Ninja! - Fri, 8 Jun 2007 4:26pm
jackass
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So condescending and yet he spews drivel. That shit doesn't even make sense. He's trying to tell us when the job of being a grownup human being begins?? Never made a choice and never will? I seriously don't get this guy.

The world has made *who* retarded, exactly? - Fri, 8 Jun 2007 4:32pm
J
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lol Daj lol

dont taunt someone that doesn't like you... - Fri, 8 Jun 2007 5:27pm
begbie
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The irony is if everyone thinks the same way as DAJ and not work nor pay taxes, there would not be any libraries for them in loiter in. - Fri, 8 Jun 2007 5:44pm
trevor corey
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I just got home from downtown.
On the way home I yelled at someone, "ARE YOU RETARDED!", ha. Must be in the air.
The worst part about my "incident" was that all of his friends put their hands in their pockets and stared at their feet afraid to make eye contact with me.
Pussies. - Fri, 8 Jun 2007 5:47pm
Doc
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KnifeGhost I'm not threatened by DAJ, nor am I threatened by you, I just take offence to DAJ's whole stand. Just because he doesn't want to contribute to society is not a reason for him to try and bring it down. He can go and live with the other jobless lay-abouts under the Johnson Street Bridge.
As for you DAJ, fuck you and fuck your plagerized ideals. For those who don't know, this whole I am god - you are god - all lovey dovey bullshit was a thematic tool in Robert Heinlein's "Stranger in a Strange Land" back in the sixties.
If DAJ and his hippie band want to live for free without our society, I say go off into the forest and start a fucking commune so we don't have to deal with their crap polluting our city streets. You must realize DAJ that before you can save someone, they have to want to be saved. Why don't you remove yourself from society for a few years and then come back and tell me how wonderful it is. I for one don't think you'd last 6 months.

~Somke your peace and blow it out your ass

Doc. - Fri, 8 Jun 2007 7:12pm
DAJ
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so much hate. which is just an indication of delusion because all people are only products of their experience and not truly responsible for their actions. If you want people to step out of their harmful delusions, then give them the truths that they have yet to experience. Hate is ridiculous and laughable.

peace - Sat, 9 Jun 2007 9:31am
Chopper
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'Want to do something about it, punk... do ya?'

'so much hate. which is just an indication of delusion because all people are only products of their experience and not truly responsible for their actions. If you want people to step out of their harmful delusions, then give them the truths that they have yet to experience. Hate is ridiculous and laughable.'

When you call someone out, as in the 1st quote, you show yourself to be hateful and violent. And then you totally waffle, with more incoherent psychotic double talk. You're a fucking hypocrite. And the more you post this useless shit, the more the holes in your supposed belief system get larger. Do us all a favour and fuck off. Only a moron would keep trying to preach to people who obviously don't give a shit about your beliefs. - Sat, 9 Jun 2007 12:54pm
J. Peatman
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I can't believe that DAJ is fortunate enough to live and loiter in this beautiful city with its climate, and still complains. Try loitering in Edmonton or Winnipeg in the winter, or during any other season, and you'll realize that you have NOTHING to complain about.

But what if the city builds -from our taxes- a special loitering zone? 4 walls, a roof, 2 bathrooms and a couple of doors, no non-loiterers allowed. Now and then a hatch in the roof will open and a city worker will pour a bucket of pennies in.

We'll get the library to donate writeoff books to the loitering zone, that should take care of the need to loiter in the courtyard there.

This facility will be outside the direct downtown area so that you loiterers won't be disturbed by us taxpayers. There can be no more complaints after that. - Sat, 9 Jun 2007 2:53pm
Mr. Hell
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Don't forget a bucket of cigarette butts, Mr. Peatman! Without those, they're totally fucked. - Sat, 9 Jun 2007 3:10pm
trevor corey
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. - Sat, 9 Jun 2007 4:57pm
KnifeGhost
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J, Doc, I get where you're coming from, but why are you angry about something that isn't a threat to you? - Tue, 12 Jun 2007 1:52am
DAJ
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false arrest last night for the loitering thing

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Hey all. Sarah and I and Andrew Ainsley were arrested last night (Monday the 11th of June, 2007). Sarah and I were arrested for breaching the conditions of the last arrest, even though the last arrest was dropped (apparently, someone 'forgot' to enter that fact into the police's computer). They figured it out by this morning and released us. Andrew was arrested for a charge that never existed and he was released when we got to the police station last night. The cop that arrested Andrew was very aggressive and violent, practicing his intimidation techniques- it seems Andrew might not just complain but actually sue the delusional butthead.

This was all a big pile of crap. A tactic of intimidation and nothing more. (If you support the crown, stop right now because you will be forced to hate me for pointing out your complete world/life destroying retardation). You do not have the right to not join the revolution.

I will return to occupying the courtyard before this day is over (i'm going to retrieve my stuff from the police station first). If you have any comprehension of freedom you will join us.

I love you all... even the ones that only occasionally see my hippy side.

peace,

David Arthur Johnston

Victoria, BC, Canada

[email protected]

home page- http://www.angelfire.com/apes/hatrackman - Tue, 12 Jun 2007 10:40am
Jl
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how is him trying to take our society apart not threating to us?
The very element that allows him to speak his opinion is the very same system that he wants gone... Im not trying to be a crusader but if someone wants to change the way I live then I better at least have my say. Be it me being threatened and willing to do anything at all costs to preserve our beloved "system"/way of life; or someone who actually believes good can come from the way Daj thinks... at least I spoke up. - Tue, 12 Jun 2007 6:29pm
trevor corey
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.....because DJ is a head case, and isn't capable of changing the way you live.
Good for you for speaking up though. - Tue, 12 Jun 2007 7:51pm
KnifeGhost
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J, how is DAJ able to change the way you live you life? Why do you give him so much of your power?

You're right, though, speaking up is better than keeping silent. - Tue, 12 Jun 2007 11:59pm
trevor corey
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As I was driving past the Library at around 5:30, I noticed a few cop cars parked outside.
I don't think we will be hearing from DJ Ninja anytime soon.
..............and that is why JI has nothing to worry about. - Wed, 13 Jun 2007 2:38am
Jl
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hehe, i wouldn't necessarily say I give him 'power' so much as I dont take such things lightly. I know as an extreme example, people who've acted/believed in some of the same principals or who've been considered radicals to our society can change or could possibly alter the way we live. Take a look at the jewish community; if hitler didn't mark "them" as being "im-pure" do you think the way of life for the jewish peoples would be the same? Or how about people of afro-american decent, if there wasn't slavery/extreme prejudice; do you think that 'black-history' would run so deep with so much anomosity towards "white people"?
What Im trying to say is that while you might consider Daj to be some trifling idiot on a msg board, it isn't completely out of his grasp to try something that hits home alot more than postings on a msg board. Now dont go thinking im calling Daj a terrorist, cuz im not. Im simply saying that while people laughed at hitler when he was young; shit changed and when he came into power.... SHIT REALLY CHANGED. To futher that; in my defense, I would lay my life on the line to protect the way we live. And that would be living in an open and free society without worrying about the person next to you; or next to them. Sorry if i come off sounding like an extremist american, but at the end of the day we all should have that willingness to protect that of which we live and love.

with all that being said, I dont myself think that Daj would be capable of causing the next world war; but it cetainly isn't out of his grasp to get attention by any means necissary(and you know what im talkin' about). - Wed, 13 Jun 2007 2:31pm
Bryn
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Well this guy and his crew of fellow lumakicks and adoring hippy chicks sure make it a less pleasant experience to visit the library downtown. These guys park their bikes plus trailers plus panniers plus bulging garbage bags in space that would accomodate 3 or 4 regular bikes. I come there to actually use the library and I have frequently have to look all over for a safe place to lock up my bike because the library racks are monopolized by these homeless cats' RV-style bicycles. The library square becomes a lot less appealing to spend time in when there is a gang of people playing music, smoking and hanging up art and signs written on the backs of old cardboards.
DAJ and posse aren't selflessly claiming space for public use, they are selfishly taking away space from the public for their own use. - Wed, 13 Jun 2007 9:19pm
KnifeGhost
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"And that would be living in an open and free society without worrying about the person next to you; or next to them. "

The funny thing is that that's what DAJ wants, too. He does what he does because he doesn't think this is an open and free society. Now, your idea of an open and free society and his may be very different, but you both have the same motivation. It's bizarre how strongly people who want the same things can disagree.

I've never heard DAJ say anything threatening to anybody. In fact, he's usually the least belligerent person posting on any of his threads. If he was shaping up to be another Hitler, I think we'd be able to see it. - Wed, 13 Jun 2007 10:03pm
DAJ
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loitering update- June 13th, 2007

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hey... alrighty, the scoop the news... k whatever-

Sarah and I had a delightful time with a new sign. The sign was finished at about 3 (a beautiful thing, best sign yet- it said in large letters-
'Loitering' implies purposelessness
the signs are insane
enforcing them is criminal
not leaving 'til they come down

bordering the top it said- pride is sin because fate is real
bordering the bottom it said- the power of patience is with you)

anyhoo- cops came at about 5. Arrested us for Assault by Trespass. Got to the station- they tried to get us to sign a Promise to Appear for August 8th, we refused and came to court in the morning. They did not take our picture or prints. We talked to duty council and he said that there was no such thing as Assault by Trespass and he would see what he could do. Sarah and I waited all day in cells to eventually sign an undertaking to return tomorrow (Thursday the 14th) at 9:00 AM to make our plea (not-guilty) and then set a date for trial. Apparently 3 of the top crown people confered all morning to figure out what to do with us. We are being charged with 'fail to leave/stop activity on or in premises, contrary to section 4(3) Trespass Act' for June 12th AND for the first time we protested on April 12th (I guess that may be their 'out' for not taking our picture and prints this time).

I guess I'll write another update tomorrow to say the trial date.

love you all

in the inevitable abolishment of the crown and the enforced entering of the times of trust and ingenuity,

David Arthur Johnston

Victoria, BC, Canada

[email protected]

home page- http://www.angelfire.com/apes/hatrackman - Wed, 13 Jun 2007 10:26pm
Jl
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i hear what your sayin knife; and i know i shouldn't be taking this so seriously, but it just gets my panties in a knot when I hear people who, to me, make no effort in life and then claim that society rejects them and that all land is everyones etc... All I've heard from Daj is how bad our lives are, and how naive we all are for believing in our ways; and also that we dont really own/earn anything in our lives. I dont disagree that taxes are for chumps; but when it comes down to it, you do anything you can to get by; and if that means paying a little out to the country, then so be it.
Also, I've found that while Daj may have reason to think the way he does; it doesn't mean he can come out and call us out and say we're all idiots for living the way we do.
So in the end, I work my ass off for what? so Daj can say im an idiot and that I earn money that goes straight back to 'the man'? fuck no. I work my ass off to enjoy the fruits of my labour.
If i were to assume a new handle here and post "your all fools for paying into the government and living in a corrupt world without choice or freedom", i can garentee someone else would then take my place and fight right against that ideal/belief. Not because they're trolling or trying to cause shit, its because people do actually work and enjoy what they work for and save for, whether you believe it or not; that's up to you. - Thu, 14 Jun 2007 5:20pm
DAJ
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no one has ever made a choice and pride is complete bullshit

the power of patience sees us through the most absurd aspects of the truth - Thu, 14 Jun 2007 6:42pm
Mean Mike
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Who paid for your duty council? - Thu, 14 Jun 2007 6:59pm
round em up
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Lock the fucker up and be done with him.... - Thu, 14 Jun 2007 9:24pm
begbie
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"no one has ever made a choice.."

Is that what deadbeats say to justify their laziness. So instead of taking matters into their own hand, like getting a job so they won't have anytime to loiter, they blame their actions on the hand of fate. "Hey, it's not my fault I live this way. It was predestined."

So guess DAJ is "destined" to sit in the slammer for awhile. - Thu, 14 Jun 2007 10:02pm
DeadYeti1
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yes, As we're all "destined" to pick up the tab! - Thu, 14 Jun 2007 10:41pm
KnifeGhost
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J, again I get what your saying. What I think DAJ is right about is that all that we earn and work for isn't really entirely ours. It can be taken away from us, rightly or wrongly, we can lose it, whatever. The only thing that's really truly ours is what happens in our heads, and (DAJ may disagree) the choices we make. I mostly agree with DAJ, if that's what he means.

But that doesn't stop me from working, and it doesn't stop me from accumulating. There are things I can do if I make lots of money that I can't do if I don't. Some of them are just things I want, most of them are things I'll do because I think it makes the world a better place. But I know I can't take it with me after I die, and I might lose it all before then. I know what's me and what's stuff, and I'm ok with that. What DAJ is squaking about is that too many people can't tell the difference between themselves and their work or their possessions or their house or whatever. What DAJ doesn't get is that people can know who they are and have possessions.

Remember, it doesn't matter a damn what DAJ thinks of you. What do you think of you? If you get a good answer, what do you care? If you don't like the answer, you can change. But to suit yourself, not anyone else.

And I know where you're coming from when you say DAJ makes no effort in life, but I think in some ways a lot of people could learn from him. I think that's why I defend him as much as I do. Not because I agree with him, but because I think we can learn from him. He lives 100% of every day being who he is 100%. He doesn't turn it off at 5 and go home for dinner. He doesn't apologize for it, and he doesn't ask permission. No matter what DAJ may say or do that I don't agree with, and often think is fully crazy, I know he's giving me the real shit. He's not bullshitting me, and I appreciate that.

Anyways. That's how I see it. - Fri, 15 Jun 2007 12:47am
trevor corey
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I think he's full of shit. Wether it be "bullshit" or any other kind of crap. - Fri, 15 Jun 2007 8:06am
Kyle
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...all this effort just to loiter at the library?
Why? - Fri, 15 Jun 2007 8:34am
DAJ
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do you think you're choosing to have the thought you are thinking right now... and this one... and this one? - Fri, 15 Jun 2007 9:24am
trevor corey
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You gotta fight
For the right
To parrrrrrrrrteh! - Fri, 15 Jun 2007 11:13am Edited: Fri, 15 Jun 2007 11:14am
Jl
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daj, do you think it was fate that led us to bicker on this board?
or do you think I CHOSE to speak my mind? Just like you CHOSE the path your on and the crusade your trying to spearhead.
You speak of everyone having no choice in their lives; when you sit there in front of your computer cleary CHOOSING where you post your material, or do you think it was fate that those site and this one were specially setup just so you could feed your ill-fated propoganda? (i hardly believe it could be the latter).
At any rate, take the hint that nobody likes the cut of your jib. - Fri, 15 Jun 2007 2:11pm
Kyle
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The "no choice" thing is quite the catch-all argument; you don't have to worry about explaining your rationale or being accountable for your actions. Fate did it. - Fri, 15 Jun 2007 3:46pm
DAJ
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Kyle.

ya, pretty much. can't blame anyone, really, because we are all just conduits of experience- its why hate is absurd... if I'm fated to explain my rational then I will. Just like my every response... and everyone else's, forever. - Fri, 15 Jun 2007 6:01pm
David Arthur Johnston
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JI,

you didn't choose to believe in choice - Fri, 15 Jun 2007 6:01pm
Jl
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DAJ,

stop the circular arguments... come up with something fresh. I chose to disagree with you; without you having to tell me it was in my fate. I, frankly, dont belive in that BS you spill; nor do I believe everyone's life has been written. Right now I have the choice to come down to that library and ruin life for you as you know it; but do i? No, because I choose not to be a fucking asshole.
And before you go on some tirade about choice and fate; save it for someone who cares - Fri, 15 Jun 2007 6:12pm
DAJ
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Good day JI, I realize my shit can be a bit much sometimes for some people. I do know how it sounds, I grew up thinking choice was a real thing, as well. Most everyone has, not all though. It wasn't until a couple hundred years ago that 'choice' started infusing itself in people's minds enmass. Fate, for most of history, has been generally accepted. The idea of 'it is written' was once normal (not that long before electronic communication).

not arguing. saying the truth, then whoever will be however inspired they will be

what is 'is', regardless of opinion

may you enjoy the peace of loving truth most

I welcome any response, be it humble or proud, may you enjoy learning about the invulnerability of patience- it will keep you sane when the world crumbles around you

peace - Fri, 15 Jun 2007 7:50pm
Mean Mike
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but.. who pays for the duty council?



oh right.. us taxpayin types. - Fri, 15 Jun 2007 9:27pm
DAJ
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I don't like people buying me stuff. in four years of not using money I have said yes to legal aid twice and have had the assistance of a church's ferry passes 4 or 5 times- these are the questionable moments. You taxpaying types are affording true fascism, so I forgive you. May your want of truth override the want of convention. Fate is real. Pride is sin. You don't have the right to use money. No one owns anything (as you are everything...). Capitalism is a retardation that we were born into- we step out of it before we kill everything. - Fri, 15 Jun 2007 11:41pm
Meantime Mike
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maybe we dont have 'the right' to use money in your mind, but that doesnt stop 'them' from taxing our asses to death to support bums like you you who choose to lounge around at the library courtyard all day doing nothing. - Sat, 16 Jun 2007 12:41am
trevor corey
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Spark one, and groove to this:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hkjkTe5kZE&mode=related&search= - Sat, 16 Jun 2007 1:15am
dumpstermesh
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Daj, you're right.

I'm not choosing to be sooo pissed off with you. It's fate. Just like it's fate that you're going to get your ass handed to you on a plate by a pregnant chick unless someone else beats me to it.

Grow up hippy, THIS IS THE WORLD!! If you don't like it leave us in peace brother. - Sat, 16 Jun 2007 2:16am
trevor corey
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Sounds like someone just found out that Haagan Das doesn't have a pickle flavor. - Sat, 16 Jun 2007 3:09am
Jl
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So according to Daj logic, it was already "written" that i would argue with him. So this, ineffect makes me a crusader for the rights of capitalism; or does it?
So now that we've established that; Im still going to continue to fight for what I believe in(and it just so happens alot more people are on the same wave length). We do not ask for forgiveness; and nor should you provide your forgiveness to us for believing in the way we do. If what is "is"; then you have an army set before you of people who will do anything they can to oppose you.
Good luck in your crusade, cuz you will need it.

now if that isn't in your kinda lingo then i dont know what else to say Daj. But I think dumpster said it best; leave us alone, and if you practice what you preach you WILL leave us alone because that's just what IS. - Sat, 16 Jun 2007 9:03am
trevor corey
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......"dumpster" is just mad cause goatboy ate all teh pickles. - Sat, 16 Jun 2007 3:35pm
J. Peatman
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In a nutshell; anyone could "choose" not to live on the street. But once you choose the street, your options are limited and fate steps in. I guess that's where his philosohphy stems from.

Where his definition of "true facism" stems from however, I have no clue. Not the history books, that's for sure. - Sun, 17 Jun 2007 11:14pm
dumpstermesh
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Well....how can I make Double chocolate fudge pickle ice cream without the pickles? Damn you Goatboy!! As punishment I'm going to name the goatbaby David Arthur and make it live outside the library. Even if it is a girl. - Mon, 18 Jun 2007 1:13am
trevor corey
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News footage of DJ Ninja getting arrested-


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0&mode=related&search= - Mon, 18 Jun 2007 2:32am Edited: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 2:48am
Chopper
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You should be drawn and quartered for that link trevor! - Mon, 18 Jun 2007 8:57pm
trevor corey
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Ha!
Did you all read the comments? - Mon, 18 Jun 2007 11:16pm
Chopper
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Just did. I take it the DAJ comment was someone from here? *nudge* *nudge* *wink* *wink* say no more, say no more! - Tue, 19 Jun 2007 12:58am
DAJ
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Anti-'No Loitering' Sign Campaign Update (Victoria, BC, Canada)- Wed. June 20, 2007

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Oh my. Good day all.

Just got the particulars from the 'crown' about how they want to proceed with the charges against me and Sarah for occupying the courtyard out front of the Greater Victoria Public Library.

It makes me pause often, finding the words to describe this absurdity they have presented. Apparently, me and my cronies and followers have been a plague in the library courtyard scaring the female employees with video cameras, shitting in the elevator and leaving needles everywhere. We've been peeing all over the library courtyard and the Facility Manager of the Waddington Complex at 940 Blanshard Street wants us permanently banned and the 'crown' wants me under conditions that would make it illegal to have any sign on me or to post any sign. They occasionally mention that we were there in the capacity of protesters, protesting the existence of the 'no loitering' signs. They even have seven pictures of the sign which says 'not leaving until no loitering signs are removed', just in case some vital evidence may appear at a different angle, I guess.

I've one transgression, that I can see- in one of the first emails I sent out about this I suggested, adamantly, that I would not sign anything... I did sign a thing and I hope I measure my bravado more carefully in the future. This is going to trial. Tomorrow, Thursday the 21st of June, at 10:00 Am in courtroom #103. Sarah and I will be pleaing and setting a date for the trial... talking about bravado... I want the 'crown's surrender. If I get convicted because of these obvious lies the revolution will be catalized, as the courts just condemned an obviously innocent man and protected those involved in a naive, delusional and destructive crime- the unwillingness to admit a mistake and the justifying of corruption. The 'crown' thinks that malevolent behaviour is justifiable in the name of the 'common good'. It is not. The 'no loitering' signs are coming down, we'll see how.

I give odds to this being dropped after they attempt to steal as much of our energy as possible... a simple man's patience will continue to be stronger than all the spin-doctoring in the world.

Peace all. Wally... do you really want to do this thing? No mind. It will be an adventure with whatever happens. Peace to you.

David Arthur Johnston

Victoria, BC, Canada

[email protected]

home page- http://www.angelfire.com/apes/hatrackman

Homeless Nation (where these updates have been being posted)- http://homelessnation.org - Wed, 20 Jun 2007 2:28pm
Jl
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"... Apparently, me and my cronies and followers have been a plague in the library courtyard scaring the female employees with video cameras, shitting in the elevator and leaving needles everywhere.."

that's just a shame someone is giving you guys a bad name; now you wonder why we(tax paying citizens) fucking hate people trashing OUR public spaces. Doesn't feel so good now does it? This is why we have RULES for places as such, so we dont have to walk through your shit, piss, and other such negatives. Without those 'rules'; we'd have people liek the a-formentioned pissing and shitting everywhere because they can. Is that what your ideal society is to give to you? - Wed, 20 Jun 2007 2:37pm
Chopper
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The only thing absurd in these threads is your psychotic babbling dipshit. At least you'll get your free home once you're incarcerated. Let's see you try even a small percentile of the shit you just typed in you last post, once behind bars.

And yet again, you're a fucking hypocrite. Peace all my ass. - Wed, 20 Jun 2007 2:38pm Edited: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 2:38pm
trevor corey
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This is getting "Lordpatchy".
Still, every time I see the word "Johnson" I laugh out loud. I'm immature that way.
You just can't fling your shit around. We passed that stage of evolution a long time ago.
Well. Most of us did. - Wed, 20 Jun 2007 3:33pm
Chopper
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That's why I don't understand why this dumbass is even still here. His posting habit is extremely similar to LP's. He posts, people slag, he at least responds but with psychotic babble that makes 0 sense unless you're an EMP patient. We've all made it clear we don't give a rats ass about what he thinks his rights are.

Can we please just ban this waste of skin? - Wed, 20 Jun 2007 3:43pm
Mr. Hell
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So, Dave.
Are you trying to say that it isn't your cronies and followers that are toxifying the publiic spaces? Or are you admitting to it?
If it isn't your buddies doing that shit (pun intended), then who is it?
Irresponsible behavior deserves repercussions.
I hope they solve this problem once and for all. - Wed, 20 Jun 2007 4:20pm
dumpstermesh
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Even if it isn't DAJ and his lady doing these horribly disgusting things, I'm going to guess that it would be his "supporters/followers". In my mind he is still held accountable.
Take your caravan of helleons into the woods and be cougar food. We won't miss you. - Wed, 20 Jun 2007 11:36pm
dumpstermesh
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OMFG!! I just tried to watch the video on his web-site for kicks....I couldn't get through it though. Guess I don't have the patience!!

How much acid were you on there guy? - Wed, 20 Jun 2007 11:41pm
Chopper
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But the question is.. How many points did your IQ drop watching it? I got through about the 1st 30 seconds and had to close the browser, I could feel the IQ dropping substantially. - Wed, 20 Jun 2007 11:53pm
trevor corey
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OMFG!
Dj Ninja has a girlfriend!?! - Thu, 21 Jun 2007 4:20pm
DAJ
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loitering update- June 21st, 2007

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The trial is set for JANUARY 2ND, 2008 at 9:30 AM in Courtroom #203. There is a trial confirmation a month before on December 4th, 2007 at 9:00 AM in courtroom #103.

We are seeing what we can do about shaving off a couple (or 6) months. Apparently the 'crown' has seven witnesses they want to call and therefore the trial will take a day- meaning a long wait to find a full day slot. We will concede that we exist and were there, so maybe they can scratch a witness or two. I hope that we do not even get to focusing on their lies and just stay on the matter on hand- only a criminal would put up a 'no loitering' sign (may their criminalness be naive and not a contrived practice of malevolence... either way, there is no escaping karma).

There were photos taken of the false arrest that happened on June 11th. Here is a link to them- http://www.angelfire.com/apes/hatrackman/false_arrest

have good days... peace and inspiration to us all in this time of deadened and distracted minds.

in freedom,

David Arthur Johnston

Victoria, BC, Canada

home page- http://www.angelfire.com/apes/hatrackman

Homeless Nation (these updates can be found there)- http://homelessnation.org/en/user/784/track

peace - Thu, 21 Jun 2007 4:39pm
trevor corey
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I don't want to click on that link for fear of getting "Rick Roll'd" - Thu, 21 Jun 2007 5:23pm
Jl
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"...- only a criminal would put up a 'no loitering' sign (may their criminalness be naive and not a contrived practice of malevolence... either way, there is no escaping karma)...."

theres one on my front door. Does this instantly make me a criminal? or am I justified in keeping what I've earned in OUR society mine and souly mine to use? Or because of your rhetoric all i own is yours too so therefore my land is yours?
Now, I think that the latter is a complete and fucking useless endevour for someone to believe that what they're fighting for is REAL; rather than have to work for your living. Daj, why not move somewhere where your logic is accepted rather than try and change the people around you when they simply DO NOT LIKE YOUR OR YOUR BELIEF? Everytime you post here, while it does create controversy, its more of a joke because all I see is someone lacking attention who's been living on the street because "society" doesn't accept them anymore and this certain someone has taken it upon themselves to create an illusion around them so they can hide in a little bubble and point fingers at everyone else. Grow up David(im sure thats not the first time you've heard that) and realize not everyone is like you or wants to be like you. Leave it at that, and maybe some day down the road you'll find people that will actually accept your way of thinking; but the way you point your fingers and live in your little bubble, just makes you look foolish.
just remember, just because its "crown land" doesn't make it yours... since you aren't part of our society. Choosen or not.
and you actually are right with one point... there's no escaping karma; it works both ways bud. - Thu, 21 Jun 2007 6:05pm
Chopper
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Good luck Jl. You can't try and reason with someone with paranoid delusions. - Thu, 21 Jun 2007 7:54pm
DAJ
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acting like pride is a virtue makes one a criminal and foolishly delusional. patience be with them in their naivity - Thu, 21 Jun 2007 8:44pm Edited: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 8:45pm
Jl
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Ok bubble boy... - Fri, 22 Jun 2007 9:09am
trevor corey
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. - Fri, 22 Jun 2007 3:16pm
Masturbating The War God
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DAJ, - Fri, 22 Jun 2007 5:00pm
DAJ
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loitering update- June 27th, 2007

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k- a quick one

Sarah and I went in front of a judge yesterday to get our conditions changed (from a 'no go' to the entire block that the library is located to being able to use the library without stopping in the courtyard. We also changed the reporting in time from once a week to once a month). The 'crown' was mean and stupid and no one batted an eye when I suggested that the 'crown' was prejudiced in this case. We were successful after a few bouts of waiting and changing courtrooms 3 times.

So, the trial is still JANUARY 2ND, 2008... we still hope to shave off some of the time and have it earlier... we'll see.

alright- good days

David

Victoria, BC, Canada

[email protected]

home page- http://www.angelfire.com/apes/hatrackman

all the loitering updates can be found at- http://homelessnation.org/en/user/784/track (a more orderly collection can be found on the Vancouver network of Facebook, but you must be a member to view) - Wed, 27 Jun 2007 10:15am
Jl
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"...The 'crown' was mean and stupid and no one batted an eye when I suggested that the 'crown' was prejudiced in this case...."

gee go figure... - Thu, 28 Jun 2007 2:42pm
dumpstermesh
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Ya I was going to comment on the "mean and stupid" thing too. What a bunch of do-do heads eh DAJ?

Why does he keep us posted when he has no supporters here? - Fri, 29 Jun 2007 2:14am
Chopper
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He doesn't have any supporters over on homeless nation either. Not a single response in any of his threads over there. Even the 'homeless nation' think he's a nutjob. - Fri, 29 Jun 2007 2:25am
Mofo
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DAJ's brain...explained - Fri, 29 Jun 2007 10:58am
Jl
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that pic made my day... thanks mofo - Fri, 29 Jun 2007 2:25pm
Bryn
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Hey, visiting the library is much nicer since the courtyard is largely hippy free. I don't really want to know where you are, DAJ, but thanks a mill for staying out of my personal environment. - Sun, 15 Jul 2007 11:36pm
conga
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I saw old DAJ eating a big old bag of upper room taxpayers sandwiches yesterday. Shame Shame dave but i guess i forgive you. - Mon, 16 Jul 2007 2:53pm Edited: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 2:54pm
1986
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the library is for reading books not loitering?????? - Mon, 16 Jul 2007 9:19pm
Chopper
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'There are homeless people everywhere.
This homeless guy asked me for money the other day.
I was about to give it to him and then I thought he was going to use it on drugs or alcohol.
And then I thought, that's what I'm going to use it on.
Why am I judging this poor bastard.
People love to judge homeless guys. Like if you give them money they're just going to waste it.
Well, he lives in a box, what do you want him to do? Save it up and buy a wall unit?
Take a little run to the store for a throw rug and a CD rack? He's homeless.
I walked behind this guy the other day.
A homeless guy asked him for money.
He looks right at the homeless guy and says why don't you go get a job you bum.
People always say that to homeless guys like it is so easy.
This homeless guy was wearing his underwear outside his pants.
Outside his pants. I'm guessing his resume isn't all up to date.
I'm predicting some problems during the interview process.
I'm pretty sure even McDonalds has a "underwear goes inside the pants" policy.
Not that they enforce it really strictly, but technically I'm sure it is on the books.'

Lazyboy - Underwear goes inside the pants - Tue, 17 Jul 2007 9:28am
Tom Adlersparre
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Well said, Chopper. Thank you.

Regards,
Tom - Tue, 17 Jul 2007 12:09pm
Mr. Hell
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Yes, well if I go out and earn my own money to buy booze and drugs, I am sure not going to hand it over to some leech to enjoy it.
There are refundable cans and bottles everywhere downtown and you don't need your underwear inside your pants to retrieve the money for those. - Tue, 17 Jul 2007 5:00pm
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