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| MindlessMikeyJay User Info... | No one knows a good vocal coach? - Wed, 9 May 2007 4:41pm | ||
| maniac User Info... | Check out the "Zen of Screaming" by Melissa Cross You can pick this dvd up at A & B. It has an instructional dvd and an audio CD. Amazing coach. She's worked with All that Remains, Andrew W.K, Every Time I Die, God Forbid, H20, Hazen Street, Lamb of God, Madball, Shadows Fall, Thursday, and more. - Wed, 9 May 2007 10:39pm | ||
| MindlessMikeyJay User Info... | THanks dude, i forgot about that dvd. I wasnt sure if i should pick that up. I would honestly like an actually singing coach too - Thu, 10 May 2007 2:42pm | ||
| Cathedral Avenue User Info... | The kind of vocals you're looking for don't really lend themselves to proper training--they involve a little too much self-abuse in achieving volume. My advice would be to get a cheap PA-type setup (think one powered speaker, maybe an NX550). Plug a mic in, then line your iTunes or whatever into it, then blast whatever music it is you want to influence your style of vocal-ing, then try to play with your voice and see how you can get it closer to and further from the kind of things you want it to do. But always remember that you're not going to sound like anyone else, only like you and that the ultimate goal is just to test and get to know your voice in order to understand what your own unique sound is, become comfortable with it, and use it in the ways it's best used. That's where the sincerity will come from (in your performances). Good luck, brah. --Dreux - Fri, 11 May 2007 6:43am | ||
| Laprider User Info... | absolutely not true...screamers need training. Singing is about proper technique, breathing and posture and head/ mouth position. I would suggest you join a community choir, or contact the conservatory or Uvic about getting some private coaching. You really could get by with one good comprehensive lesson best to rid yourself of bad habits. No 1 mistake singers make is no support and looking up which closes the throat. Put yer chin down and try for a high note see what happens. - Fri, 11 May 2007 9:43am | ||
| fine bottle of wine User Info... | Mike! you shoulda said shit at jams, I can give you screaming pointers, and im not the best singer, but I can probably give you some pointers, the main thing I needed was just to let go and forget anyones around me, I"ve heard some really aweful singers, that sound awesome with the music, and thats how they do it too, just fuckin' givver! we'll talk, cheers mike -Davey - Fri, 11 May 2007 6:40pm | ||
| Cathedral Avenue User Info... | Yeah, my bad, I forgot where all the sincerity in screamed vocals really comes from: vocal training! Ian MacKaye, Skip Candelori, Wes Eisold, those guys all had vocal coaches, amirite? - Fri, 11 May 2007 8:05pm | ||
| dockcurrie User Info... | You're an idiot, Cathedral. If you just blithely dive into screaming and growling without knowing what your doing you can make some cool sounds but you can also hurt yourself badly. Whether you'd like to admit it or not, somewhere along the lines all famous screamers have picked up what to do and what not to do. Whether that comes with formal training or from guy's they toured with is irrelevant. The important part is they got it. Next time you try to dismiss someone seeking instruction try to remember that, eh. Oh, and yeah, that DVD is really good. Not neccessarily for making you better at making sound but definitely for preventing you from doing something stupid and putting you out of commission. - Sun, 13 May 2007 1:29pm | ||
| MindlessMikeyJay User Info... | Thanks alot for the input. I am gonna buy that DVD for sure. And Its Seems like my bud Davey is gonna help me out too. i want to eventually do some singing in a band. Something the lines Stonesour, Deftones. Soooo any suggestions and help are awesome. Plus this will help me out in a the band i am in now too. - Sun, 13 May 2007 4:50pm | ||
| Cathedral Avenue User Info... | I wasn't dismissing him, I was dismissing the idiots on here who think that resonant, valuable vocal performances of that variety come on a DVD. The vast majority of the people who were apparently involved with that vocal coach sport the good 'ole cookie monster bullshit, also known as "what the fuck did that dude just say?" You want to sound like Thursday, Hazen Street, or ALL THAT REMAINS? ROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLMAO HOLYFUCKINGSHITYOU'RESTUPID. Be my guest. And god forbid the dude blow out his voice. It's not like lots and lots of us have done that playing in heavy bands, enjoyed every second of it, and looked back on it fondly. Hell, I consider the breakup on my voice (and there's plenty of it) the result of a sorta heavy music rite of passage. In any case, that kind of damage takes serious, long-term, prolonged abuse. You can't do it practicing once a week and playing shows once a month. Also, please refrain from using 'blithe', or any other 50 cent buzzword, ever again. Shit makes me nauseous. - Mon, 14 May 2007 8:47am Edited: Mon, 14 May 2007 8:52am | ||
| MindlessMikeyJay User Info... | i was basically just posting about singing, not screaming. I said i was learning how to scream. But i wanted a actuall vocals coach, with screaming i can learn that easy. But the Singing part i need some lessons with someone, learning techniques and trying to get it solid again. Beleive me, i can sing, but i want to make it better - Thu, 17 May 2007 1:29pm | ||
| fine bottle of wine User Info... | cobain used to go into the middle of teh woods and scream until he couldnt anymore, your vocal chords are like muscles... the more you use them the stronger they will become.. life weights for an hour and than see how your arms feel. let them heal and go again, you'll notice a difference... even singing, just gotta keep at it, i used to be monotone, now I can get highs and lows and break into huge screams.. just takes work... FEEL THE BURN!! HAHA! - Sat, 19 May 2007 5:10pm | ||
| rockinchick66 User Info... | Here's a link to a web-site with how-to's on "scream singing": http://www.wikihow.com/Scream-Sing-without-Damaging-Your-Voice Personally I think real screaming is bad for your voice. Once you've screwed up your voice you can't go back. Better to learn proper breathing/warm-up techniques. Good luck with it! I think you have the right idea MindlessMikeyJay! - Sat, 19 May 2007 9:57pm | ||
| Hang the DJ User Info... | Yeah, what "fine bottle of wine" said is a good idea; just keep building on it. It's all about breath control and using enough air, and staying in tune, god damn! It's hard to give advice to someone when you don't know what they sound like. I mean you could be pitchy, or you could have a unique tone, or you could be amazing and not even know it.... or you could have an absolutely hideous voice.. Anyways.... Most vocal teachers can't actually sing themselves... they just give you advice... though I haven't had a vocal lesson but I've been singing and in choirs and all that stuff my whole life.... and know people.... actually, no I had one vocal lesson but the woman stopped giving me "advice" and just got me to sing her songs I arranged.... BECAUSE I RULE. Good luck hey? I don't think you need a vocal teacher... most people who have one sound too "trained"... most people can't really hear that but usually you can tell when someone's been taking lessons... but then again if you find someone who really works for you then go ahead. Just sing along to cd's and keep pushing it.. just not so far as to hurt yourself. Wow I really can't give advice well... pointless shinfo... - Sat, 19 May 2007 11:21pm | ||
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| fine bottle of wine User Info... | rockinchick I scream all teh time, and have been for years, and killed my voice over and over, and can carry a tune now and ever before. its not really screwing your voice up that ruins it.. its not taking care of it when its healing... but than again, i smoke cigars and drink whiskey.. so... who am i to talk - Sun, 20 May 2007 4:23pm | ||
| rockinchick66 User Info... | Great... You scream, smoke & drink whiskey and you think you're not harming your voice? Whatever... - Sun, 20 May 2007 7:05pm | ||
| fine bottle of wine User Info... | it make my signature sound! I love it - Mon, 21 May 2007 10:30pm | ||
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