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All Your Ears Can Hear... Victoria Underground 1977-84
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| ricky jak User Info... | Happy New Year... and we can hope to have this little huge project complete in the next month or two. CDs are done and check out the track list... the book is 80% done. AYECH = Victoria Undergound Punk Rock New Wave Alternative Music 1978-84 CD/Book Release Party in early March.... if you where in one of the bands let us know if you wanna play. http://www.allyourearscanhear.com/ - Mon, 1 Jan 2007 1:17am | ||
| ricky joke User Info... | UNDERGROUND.... not undergound... sorry. - Mon, 1 Jan 2007 1:23am | ||
| trevor corey User Info... |  I used to love Easy Rider Mag models when I was thirteen. They showed just enough to get my mojo going. My Uncle had a stack next to the ol homegrown. - Mon, 1 Jan 2007 2:26am | ||
| _Griphin_ User Info... | I will believe that the AYECH package is out when it's in my hands actually, until then, keep working on it!!! :) (yes, I will be buying it, no free copies for this cowboy, now if I could only find the E-Mail for Jason Flower). Now lets see what I have already... (CD1) Infamous Scientists - Canada's Pissed (from Trouble 12"), Automatic Shock - Mushrooms (is that the version from Medium Raw or RaNDom Thought Volume 2?!?), Red Tide - NATO Actionaut (from Medium Raw comp.), NEOs - Sexual Revolution (from Medium Raw comp. as well as Fight With Donald 7" (Live), Infamous Scientists - CKDA (All Your Ears Can Hear) (go figure ;) (from Noise + Rhythm +3 EP), Dishrags - High Society Snob (from Love/Hate CD (they always dreamed of playing Gary Taylor's), is this a live or studio track?!?), House of Commons - Low (from Patriot 12" (even Embo LOVES the audio I did from remixing the 12", and apparently it's the best version on the net?!?), Dayglo Abortions - Whiter Then Hitler (from the GOD Records re-release of Feed USA Fetus/Out Of the Womb), Jerk Ward - UFO (from Medium Raw compilation) (CD2) House of Commons - 1999 (from Patriot 12"), Red Tide - My Sons a Kuwahara (from Medium Raw comp.), Dishrags - Bullshit (from Love/Hate CD, I would of used "I Don't Love You", better song), Red Tide - It's More a Feeling (from Kelp + Salal 7"), Dayglo Abortions - Nuclear Supremacy (is that from Medium Raw comp. or Little Man in the Canoe?!?), Suburban Menace - Outta My Way (from Outta My Way Demo 83, they eventually turned into Red Tide), Infamous Scientists - Baldwang MUST DIE!!! (from RaMDom Thought Volume 2). BTW: CDs look awesome!!! It's interesting to find unreleased tracks from NoMeansNo (those tracks (I think) came from Holgar Summer who runs http://www.no-means-no.de/ ), The Resistance and The NEOs, for instance. GOOD WORK!!! Now what you need to do is mention where the tracks originally came from on the website :) (it'll be nice to here the remixed Red Tide, "My Son is a Kuwahara", it's the coolest Red Tide track, well, one of them.) OK, so what happened to House of Commons - American Patriot, Automatic Shock - Evolution and Bruised and Stupid - Dear Mother the Headaches Are Getting Worse?!? (just a few of many tracks that could of been included IMO) Also, The Dishrags apparently we're the first punk rock band to come out of Victoria, though everyone hated them so they moved to Vancouver. VDRP - 8 years and fallin' :) - Mon, 1 Jan 2007 11:42am Edited: Mon, 1 Jan 2007 3:35pm | ||
| lonemonk User Info... | Griph, you don't have to be jealous about a similar and/or parallel project; This is after all a legitimate release as far as I understand it, which is quite a bit different than a home-brew project such as we are working on! It is good to know that you have already collected most of what this release has to offer, but it still might have been you who started this thing originally, and written an book about the past as well. I can't wait for the culmination of this AYECH project AND yours. As you know know whoever, this is not something which is over any time soon. It continues forever. Ricky Jak, make damn sure you tell us where this collection is available once it is...... I know you weren't trying to be critical Griph, but still your initial paragraphs sound like AYECH's work is secondary to your own goals. . . - Mon, 1 Jan 2007 11:20pm Edited: Mon, 1 Jan 2007 11:25pm | ||
| _Griphin_ User Info... | AYECH's work is AWESOME!!! (Please, never think I'd ever slag the project) I guess I'm just bitter in my old age (or since the head injury). I've always looked forward to this coming out, and have ALWAYS been supportive of such a project. I was supportive back when I chatted to Jason Flower about it eight years ago. See the difference between me and AYECH is they've released something to purchase with pretty graphics on the CD :), whereas I'm just a hobbyist (CD-R is my friend :). Actually I've collected about a quarter of what the release has to offer (NoMeansNo doing NoMeansNo, I'm really curious about that as well as how the Red Tide tracks sound). I think there planning to sell it at the usual places (Lyle's Place and Ditch records), then again it's just a guess on my part (I know I want one of the first copies :). I don't even know why I posted the original message, but I got curious, and I usually do that. :( :) And as far as the release goes, I wonder if any of the artists will be compensated (with at least a free copy of the set)? The difference between AYECH and VDRP is that there more focused then I could ever be, I mean once I've finish collecting, what do I do with the archive, for instance? I've always been critical, not only for AYECH (and PLEASE support it cause it's worth supporting) but the scene in general, really, and not negative (though I can be), I just want to see people paid for their hard work. I dunno if I can help AYECH, but now I think about it I doubt it. They never asked me to help them out (other then recently), course having Jason Flower in Poland sure didn't help. And believe me, I'm nothing compared to what they've been doing, and really I don't want to be (Ricky and Jason hung around with bands I never hung around with so they know way more about the way the scene used to be, though I'm always willing to learn), I'm JUST a fan, that's it. When I start taken VDRP too seriously, it's time to do something else. Still, at least I know what I'm doing and people appreciate the work I do. ...it's more a feelin'!!! - Mon, 1 Jan 2007 11:42pm Edited: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 1:13am | ||
| Hellrat User Info... | Nice job on the track listing Rick! Kudos to you Jason, Kev and whoever else has had their hands involved in the project. Nice to se the Dayglo's demo tracks on it...the original Nuclear Supremacy is the superior version. Why no "Let's Go Rape..." though? - Tue, 2 Jan 2007 11:19am | ||
| _Griphin_ User Info... | Yes, Nuclear Supremacy from "Medium Raw" is better then the version off "Little Man in the Canoe". But I screwed up (yes, I can admit this), Holgar submitted NoMeansNo (self titled) rather then the other NoMeansNo tracks. Wow, gonna be an awesome comp!!! - Tue, 2 Jan 2007 12:27pm Edited: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 12:30pm | ||
| ricky jak User Info... | still want to have a release party! any of the bands out there wanna play. I'll keep you informed about the book. This project would probably never have been finished to the quality it is if it wasn't for Jason Flower and Kev Smith. We are closer to completeion than we ever have been. I'm sure all will enjoy this little documentation of the Victoria scene. Every time i look and listen to it i can't wait to get it into your hands.... not griphs though( Make your own!) the profit will hopefully go to the creation of another project like this or charity... if any of the bands should want to have a cut they can have the profit. We haven't really thought about that yet... all i know is my line of credit is just about all used up so i gotta repay that first. fuck the money anyway... i did this for you the underground music enthusisat.... like that NERD Griph! the AYECH escape driver -ricky long - Tue, 2 Jan 2007 9:18pm | ||
| _Griphin_ User Info... | I'm not worried, I can still find it (just not right away), but perhaps I'll just wait till it's on the net and download it. :) Jeez Ricky, be happy people are willing to spend there money buying a copy of it. You ummm... do want that, right?!? I know Infamous Scientists material is pretty well public domain (I guess), cause there not planning to release the material into CD format for NoMeansNo fans to enjoy (and they'd make a killing off that CD too). Me a Nerd?!? Born one, will die one, though I'm just highly critical, so I guess I'm an over critical nerd! I don't know if any of the bands on the compilation are expecting to be paid, you might want to look into it just incase. I think if you market the set correctly, you'll probably sell the set out (especially with the NoMeansNo material on it, I know cause I paid $42 for RaNDom Thought Volume 2 compilation on EBay). I'll post about the compilation on the NoMeansNo message board (http://www.nomeanswhatever.com ) (I'll mention about the webpage). But do they know your planning to release the compilation? Also, do you have a mailing address for people to send there hard earned money to?!? Ya know, come to think of it, too bad I couldn't buy an Advance/Promo then I'll buy the CD packaging when it gets released (I did that with Holy Shiiite, buy the promo then bought the CD when it came out). - Tue, 2 Jan 2007 9:48pm Edited: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 10:12pm | ||
| ricky jak User Info... | Griph, NMN gave us the songs to use and John contributed to the text of the book. Yes please spread the word... i know it will be easier to spread the word when it is totally complete. Jason will be home soon and I'm glad because this stuff is really his work. I was in a band in 1982 and have been going to shows since Trooper at the Memorial... I never really felt qualified to be involved in something like this... but who is really? This has been a long project and ..... ahhh it will be done soon - ricko p.s. we still need to have a release party. any bands? - Tue, 2 Jan 2007 10:11pm | ||
| _Griphin_ User Info... | Heh... aCk... you posted just as I edited. I fergot to mention, the Sickfucks are actually the Dayglo Abortions (there earlier band). Any luck seeing if Infamous Scientists will play the release party?!? You could also get in touch with Garry and see if The Resistance will play it. I dunno who else you could get, I'd LOVE to see Jerk Ward play it, can it be done? BTW: I'd never download it, I REALLY WANT to give you guys money for my copy!!! And not 3 minutes after I posted about the compilation on the NoMeansNo website, people are inquiring about it. Good stuff! - Tue, 2 Jan 2007 10:16pm Edited: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 10:51pm | ||
| trevor corey User Info... | I want a copy or two. Hope I don't miss out. - Tue, 2 Jan 2007 11:26pm | ||
| lonemonk User Info... | Griph. The good thing is you'll never actually be done, there is no end to it. Always...one...more...recording. So don't worry about what to do with it... - Wed, 3 Jan 2007 7:43pm | ||
| _Griphin_ User Info... | True, I just don't really know if I should run Soulseek, Torrent or FTP to offer the music 24/7 or even not run anything like this like I am currently. And I totally understand why Ricky Jak gets excited listening to the compilation in the morning. I'm frequently in the same state of mind myself listening to old demos myself. - Wed, 3 Jan 2007 11:22pm | ||
| lonemonk User Info... | I cant help you make that decision, but I do have a suggestion: Try to include as much information as possible so that later when the file that has been downloaded and gets separated from others of its kind, it might still make sense to the user who or what that music is. (It helps to have a descriptive file name, and use a ID3 Tag software to fill in all the particulars about a given track. Include everything you can find (year, band, song title, approx genre, notes other than 'these guys roxx!') Electronic distro doesn't make that very easy, but being creative about it can help. (Zip a compilation of MP3s AND a TXT document together and make them take an entire thing. In bittorrent you can have a directory structure defined within the torrent, make sure a similar TXT file exists along with the Audio, and make the directory name the compilation name, or album, whatever. Make damn sure the file is true TXT, not a Wordpad or Word document. Use Notepad so that Mac,Linux,PC,Ipod can read the fucker. Make sure whoever downloads stuff doesn't have to guess who they are listening to. As mentioned, the easier you make it to keep together in one place, the more often that might happen. Since 'singles' have kind of taken over the electronic distribution scene, nobody has really come up with a 'standard' means of distributing an LP or Comp in a consistent form. A made a mock-up of a People's War DVD which included everything in the CD case, lyric sheet, etc. Slide-show sortof. Because PW release was two CDs there was no way to make it small for easy electronic distro, but it was simply an example of how to make sure that anyone receiving it pretty much has to, or has the opportunity to know who made it. Even 2 years from now when people are looking through their massive 'C:\Downloads' directory, I'm worried all people will see are things like: Cool punk.mp3 FuckYa!.mp3 Deaththrash#16.mp3 Not exactly guaranteed to survive if nobody can remember what it is. Not many people have the time to re-listen to every stray MP3 file they find, just to see if it was something they want to keep. Self-contained AND self-descriptive collections is the key to what I'm talking about here. Finally, even though the band did all the musical work, if you are at all proud of the final product, make damn sure people know who made THIS compilation, and a method of contacting you and anyone from the band if possible. . . - Fri, 5 Jan 2007 6:36pm Edited: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 6:43pm | ||
| ricky jak User Info... | GONE are the days of the mixed tape.... Hey i have the Peoples War's first cassette tape.... not mp3ftpwinzip - Fri, 5 Jan 2007 6:46pm | ||
| lonemonk User Info... | Thats a cool recording. Henderson and Goluza special that one! In a way it is more Authentic Reggae than the band is... The only mp3ftpwinzip one that ever actually made it out is the one I posted here a few weeks back. It's in this forum called: People's War - Debut CD(s) - Electronic Version Go and download it mon. You'll like it. Yes, the mixed tape has been replaced with the shuffle feature of ones iPod. I think the mixed tape will be popular again one day but I'm not entirely sure what form they will take. . . - Fri, 5 Jan 2007 6:53pm Edited: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 6:55pm | ||
| _Griphin_ User Info... | Each recording used to get a sample .NFO which explains the source of the recording, but like many artists I got lax. I plan to re-work a number of descriptions. Here's an example: Victoria Demo Restoration Project (VdrP) presents... Shutdown - Shutdown (Vinyl Rip) ======== =============== Source: Vinyl Produced by: Murray "The Cretin" Acton and Shutdown Engineered by: Pete Jonassen Recorded at: D.S.P. Studios, Victoria, B.C. Processing: Steinberg WavLab V5.00 Filters used: Steinberg Clean v5.00 Compression: Lame Codec (modified), RazorLame Compressed at: VBR 44.1 kHz True Stereo Remastered by _Griphin_ to MP3: October 24, 2005 Track Listing ------------- 01 - The Mechanic 02 - What You Are 03 - Six Faced Lie 04 - Fights Shutdown are: Rob Duffy - Guitar Paul Spriggs - Guitar Dustin Schwam - Drums Mark Morrison - Bace (hey that's what the single says :) Paul Shrimton - Vocals Thanx (1990): Sean Chikara, Murray "Cretin" Acton, Peter J., Scott H., Kenton, Block, Dave Eaton, B.J., Nicci K., Meki Doyle, Alisa, Sharan D., Tanya G., Offbeat, CFUV, Harpos, Funhouse, Rick Long, Shannon, Hovatta, Vancouver Jaks, Section 46, Dayglo Abortions, OnionHouse (RIP), Disorted Influence, Soulcharge, BFG's, Stickfarm, Pigment V., L-7, NoFX, Green Day, Bad Religion, Karnij, Peasant Wagon, 64 Funnycards, Severance, Clusterfux, Vid Bek Prod., Shad & War Muscle Crew, Micky Christ, and all the cool chix and bro's we hang with, you know who the fuck you are! This one's for our good bro, Lips Long, see you in a while mutherfucker! Chikara Records P.O. Box 65331, Station F, Vancouver, B.C., Canada V5N-5P3 I figure if it's gonna get out on the net, to credit the artists, I totally agree with lonemonk about giving credit where credit is due. I too have the Peoples War Volume 1 recording, not the tape tho'. :( God knows I know how to electronically distro albums (I was in 3 MP3 groups). You fill in your ID3s, for one thing, but also use an artist/song for the filename. Using the above example: 01-Shutdown-The Mechanic.mp3 02-Shutdown-What You Are.mp3 03-Shutdown-Six Faced Lie.mp3 04-Shutdown-Fights.mp3 Questions?!? - Fri, 5 Jan 2007 7:13pm Edited: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 7:22pm | ||
| lonemonk User Info... | Your NFO file is a perfect example. Just make sure they always get done, and my rant was only to say that creative means are necessary these days to help make sure the NFO stays alongside the music files when things are being distributed far and wide because those folk will not automatically know who Shutdown is for instance.... Looks good; Good work. . - Fri, 5 Jan 2007 8:08pm | ||
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| doolz User Info... | I'm pretty sure the singer's name is spelled: Paul Shrimpton. He and Paul Spriggs were in Disciples of Abelard before they joined Shutdown. - Wed, 31 Jan 2007 9:52pm | ||
| spriggs User Info... | I started checking this site more regularly to follow the J brown threads. looking around, I see my name pops up here and there. Yes, It is Spelled SHRIMPTON and he and I did have a band called Disciples of abelard before Shutdown. Rick, this all your ears can hear thing is fuckin'awesome Idea. I can't wait to get my hands on it. to whoever is working on vol 2 (i think I read that jason flower may have something to do with it), I have a shit-load of gig flyers from 1985 onward that I've been keeping for all these years in case anyone had some use for them. lots of rats nest stuff contact me if you care. - Wed, 31 Jan 2007 10:26pm | ||
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| ricky jak User Info... | A little bit closer.... arrggghhh. Todd the lay-out guy for the AYECH book is now away on holiday for three weeks... meaning the completetion time is yet again delayed. Todd is doing a great job and again i can only say it will be worth the wait. we are really only 6 pages away from haveing a final sweep... then we have to go to press. This is a AYECH production and most of the credit must go to the scene 1978-84 the people and bands that said lets DIY... and Jason Flower and Kev Smith... with out these guys you would just be holding a handfull of stapled zerox papers with a cassette tape (my original idea)... but innstead it will be the book and CDs. Todd for the book layout and Craig Else for mastering the music. anyway all i do is keep the spirit alive and the ball rolling. -ricko JaK - Wed, 7 Feb 2007 7:49pm | ||
| sealion User Info... | I read some pages about a year ago and there are great contributions in there, scottt henderson and Ian from Mezzrows on what it was, among others. Even then Ricky & Co insisted that they wanted to take the long hard road to keep to the DIY photoxerox mag style of then. I'm hoping its a bit later than early March as some people need to remember how to play...ahem - Sat, 10 Feb 2007 7:46pm | ||
| DK User Info... | What's the reunion show looking like at this point? Have the Dishrags been contacted? I know they've been playing together and there is a rumour they will be playing in Vancouver with the Furies soon. A Jerk Ward ward or Neos reunion would be pretty cool. I imagine a Jerk Ward reunion is unlikely though considering one of the members is dead right? - Sat, 24 Feb 2007 9:31am | ||
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