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The Canucks are Doomed
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| mica User Info... | why? morrison should be healthy, the drama in the locker room should be diminished with the departure of bert, luongo in goal, a young fast puck moving potentially all-star defenseman in bourdon, the twins coming off of their best season and a new coach who says he is going to make the players accountable. i think your statement is unfounded. you might want to at least provide an argument. - Mon, 28 Aug 2006 2:03pm | ||
| Mark User Info... | Definately...I used to have the hopefullness that mica has but it's been 14 years. I'm done with the Cannucks. Canadiennes get my backing once again. At least they make it to the playoffs pretty regularly. - Mon, 28 Aug 2006 2:26pm | ||
| trevor corey User Info... | Bite your foul tongue, Doomed my ass! This will be the best team Vancouver has iced yet. From the goalie on out. Who do you think is gonna keep them under .500? Edmonton LOL, Calgary LOL, Colorado LMAO, or maybe hehe, Minnasota, pbhhhhhhtht hahahahahah! - Mon, 28 Aug 2006 2:51pm | ||
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| ROSS B AY User Info... | That's a joke, by the way. So bite me. - Mon, 28 Aug 2006 4:01pm | ||
| Curmudgeon Rocker User Info... | I'm worried about Naslund and the injured groin. He FUCKIN BETTER have a plus/minus that isn't -17 like last season. (And Bert's -18!!!! They were BY FAR the worst pm's on the team! fucked up!) Having a goalie - who not only can log in more minutes than most goalies but also have a .920 career save percentage - should HOPEFULLY bolster the team's confidence. I'm sure Roberto will be happier playing here than in Florida, too. Bert was deadwood (but GODAMMN I miss how he straightarmed his way around defensemen). I look forward to seeing Willie Mitchell plasteriing players into the boards, so, yeah - I think the Vancouver Canucks will finish second in their division this coming season and then go on to beat the Flyers for the Stanley Cup. - Mon, 28 Aug 2006 6:06pm | ||
| theredneckhippie User Info... | all I can say bout the canucks is ?????? I have no idea how there going to do this year......we potentially have the best team in the league tho..... here's to hoping...... - Fri, 1 Sep 2006 12:05pm | ||
| dumpstermesh User Info... | This is the year, this is the year, this is the year..... - Fri, 1 Sep 2006 12:49pm | ||
| STBP User Info... | Here's why the Canucks will fall on their faces this year: 1. Much less experience on the blueline. Gone are Jovo and Bryan Allen (a future all-star IMO), in come Krajicek, Tremblay, Mitchell, Fitzpatrick? Ick. A thin D means an overall weak team with less wins. Luc Bourdon? If he even makes the team this season (doubtful) he won't be an impact D-man for a while. He's no Dion Phaneuf. Depth on D was an issue last year, even more so now. 2. Naslund remains the captain. I can't think of a softer captain in the entire NHL. Once called his own team chokers! This supposedly new-look team needed a new leader. Either they should have dealt him away, or handed the C to Ohlund. Naslund needs to concentrate on what he's best at.. that's scoring, not leading. 3. Luongo, the biggest wild card. One of the best goalies to be sure. Was under zero pressure in Miami, and is now seen as the latest saviour in an intense, success-starved market. The afore-mentioned problem defence will mean he'll see alot of shots. I predict the same outcome as in Florida: great save %, good GAA, and a stack of losses anyway. They don't call it the Goalie Graveyard for nothing. 4. A new coach who will no doubt give some of his pet project players from Manitoba more ice time on the Canucks than they'll deserve. This may be wise for long-term development (see the Sisters), but it means more errors and goals against. Vancouver fans are impatient and want success now, not later. Shit, a 3 game slide and the sky is falling according to most Canucks fans! .500 or bust. - Fri, 1 Sep 2006 2:23pm | ||
| J User Info... | id have to agree with you steve, on the captian part... but none the less, your always the one to mix it up with 'nucks fans ... "SPEAR THE WHALE"! - Fri, 1 Sep 2006 2:36pm | ||
| dumpstermesh User Info... | Where's the love? Positive vibe, positive vibe. This is the year. They can't let me down again. - Fri, 1 Sep 2006 2:37pm | ||
| _Griphin_ User Info... | Doomed already?!? Wow, season hasn't started yet. My prediction, if the team is THAT good it'll take 3 years for them to win a cup with the same lineup, it'll take a season for them to be comfortable with each other. Ross Bay: I KNEW they were a golf team! - Fri, 1 Sep 2006 3:24pm Edited: Fri, 1 Sep 2006 3:24pm | ||
| J User Info... | following that same principal of the 3 years, vancouver should have won the cup at least a dozen times lol (j/k) i really do hope they do well, but in the same respect, even the actual team doesn't sound like they're all into it... - Fri, 1 Sep 2006 8:50pm | ||
| Platoon User Info... | The photoshops are hilarious. I agree, they are doomed. - Fri, 1 Sep 2006 10:02pm | ||
| Metalmaniac2001 User Info... | yup...stdp and dumpstermesh said it best. aint everyone tired of the "we'll get'em next year" syndrome? Year after year i heard that same ole tune. decided last year that i would go for the leafs from now on. cannucs have always gotten players and fans all jump on board like lemmings. then when the player in this case luango start to screw up regular fans drop them like a hot hockey puck. can't see why this will be any different. and they should have given crawford one more year. - Sat, 2 Sep 2006 7:30am | ||
| dumpstermesh User Info... | I said something best? I wish...seems you got me confused with someone else. I'm puttin' out the positive vibe as usual for the locals. My fallback team is Detroit. Ah screw it all!! I'm going to the Salsa opener! - Sat, 2 Sep 2006 4:33pm | ||
| trevor corey User Info... | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nstr26uBx5I GO SALSA!!!!!!!!! - Sat, 2 Sep 2006 10:32pm | ||
| Curmudgeon Rocker User Info... | Gosh I'd like to see Ruutu play with the Sedins. /Jarkko Rutle? - Tue, 5 Sep 2006 9:30pm Edited: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 9:31pm | ||
| mica User Info... | I call bullshit: 1. Much less experience on the blueline. Gone are Jovo and Bryan Allen (a future all-star IMO), in come Krajicek, Tremblay, Mitchell, Fitzpatrick? Ick. A thin D means an overall weak team with less wins. Luc Bourdon? If he even makes the team this season (doubtful) he won't be an impact D-man for a while. He's no Dion Phaneuf. Depth on D was an issue last year, even more so now. Which Bryan Allen have you been watching? I would way rather have Mitchell as a stay at home d-man. Luc Bourdon doubtful? They have made room for him to make the jump, he has the potential to back the powerplay and - from what I've read - he is less likely to give the puck away than Jovo. As for Krajicek - here is what TSN has to say about him: "Has all-star potential from the back end. Will put up points and also log loads of ice time when he becomes an NHL regular". 2. Naslund remains the captain. I can't think of a softer captain in the entire NHL. Once called his own team chokers! This supposedly new-look team needed a new leader. Either they should have dealt him away, or handed the C to Ohlund. Naslund needs to concentrate on what he's best at.. that's scoring, not leading. I don't disagree that Naslund was in a very difficult position as Captain last season. He was stuck between a rock and a hard place - the rock being the Captaincey and the hard place being his friendship with Bertuzzi. I think he will get a chance to Captain the team again, but I don't think he will keep the C if the team doesn't repsond. He knows this: http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=176646&hubname=nhl 3. Luongo, the biggest wild card. One of the best goalies to be sure. Was under zero pressure in Miami, and is now seen as the latest saviour in an intense, success-starved market. The afore-mentioned problem defence will mean he'll see alot of shots. I predict the same outcome as in Florida: great save %, good GAA, and a stack of losses anyway. They don't call it the Goalie Graveyard for nothing. You think he had zero pressure playing under Keenan? He is the epitomy of intense - bordering on clinically insane. At this point, this argument has no merit..it isn't even worth addressing. 4. A new coach who will no doubt give some of his pet project players from Manitoba more ice time on the Canucks than they'll deserve. This may be wise for long-term development (see the Sisters), but it means more errors and goals against. Vancouver fans are impatient and want success now, not later. Shit, a 3 game slide and the sky is falling according to most Canucks fans! Ninety seven percent of season's tickets sold? I'd say the fans are pretty optimistic Nobody knows how this will play out, but what you fail to mention is that Vigneault led the moose to the North Division finals last year. Also, he is more of a defensive minded coach than Crawford - which might help to address your "lots of shots" prediction. Bottom line is that nobody knows how the season will play out. It is obvious after last season that the game has changed - in the minds of most, for the better. I think the Canucks have as much chance as any other team and I believe the lack of drama in the dressing room will pay huge dividends. If the players buy into a system that works and stick with it, I think they have a good chance of winning the cup. I have always cheered for the Canucks first and I always will. If they don't make the playoffs or get eliminated, I'll cheer for any other Canadian team...except Toronto. Perhaps we'll see all you nay-sayers on the band-wagon next spring. GO CANUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! - Thu, 7 Sep 2006 12:00pm | ||
| ML7Mike User Info... | I thought the D was looking good this year! And with lots of depth for callups on the farm team. Apparently Nonis is still shopping for a top-6 winger, and the Sedins have gotten to the point where they make the Carter, not vice versa, so almost anyone can go on that line and do well. (Id like to see Carter back though ) Nas and Mo certainly dont need Bertuzzi, but it would be nice if Nonis could find them someone proven.. Lots of rumors have been flying on the Canucks Forum and some of the UFA's still out there are definate 1st liners. Im really looking forward to watching Bourdon, Mitchell, Krajicek, Ohlund, Salo in the back and some of the new guys and returning youth up front ( ie: Kessler, Burrows, Reid, King, ) And if Tommi Santala makes the team.. look out! :) - Thu, 7 Sep 2006 12:19pm | ||
| trevor corey User Info... | Tommy Santala doesn't look at the toilet paper after he wipes. - Thu, 7 Sep 2006 2:25pm | ||
| trevor corey User Info... | The sisters can bounce pucks off my grandma into the net - Thu, 7 Sep 2006 2:27pm | ||
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| Jeremy Baker User Info... | I thionk the Canucks have to potential this to surprise us and make the playoffs. The team might gel at some point and then, look out, we got an 05/06 Oil;ers on our hands... except maybe finally, FINALLY it'll be our team. - Thu, 7 Sep 2006 2:48pm | ||
| mica User Info... | jeremy, that first sentence makes you sound like darcy tucker. stop drinking on the job! - Thu, 7 Sep 2006 3:28pm | ||
| STBP User Info... |  Luc Bourdon has a chance to make the team, but lots of you are putting the pressure on already -- calling for him to back the power play, jump right into a fulltime NHL defensive spot.. don't hold your breath. The smart move is to get some serious pro experience in the minors, but indeed the D may be too thin and they'd need him. Management probably wouldn't want to see him NHL this year, but the coaches may insist. Bryan Allen was a years-long project that will now pay off for someone else. Big, young, durable, nasty, heavy-hitter, and that invaluable 4-5 (?) seasons under his garter belt now. He's gonna be good. re: coach.. the Moose lost in the league quarter-final last season -- would the Nux fans be happy with that result this year? Probably. "Good chance of winning the Cup"? Har! If you don't want to talk goaltending, OK.. that is by far the least of your worries (barring injury - the backup's gonna have to be someone who comes cheap). The fans are expecting miracles and plenty of stolen games, so Luongo had better deliver. Maybe someone besides mica wants to talk goalies? Oh, and thanks for the TSN footnotes mica. Those really won't be necessary though. One shouldn't need a website to back up ones claims here, however misguided! .500 or bust! - Thu, 7 Sep 2006 3:33pm | ||
| trevor corey User Info... | Don't ya mean he sounds like Kappenen after Tucker's hit? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06o2395RUyM - Thu, 7 Sep 2006 3:34pm | ||
| Mica User Info... | - Allen may be tough, but how are you going to make him fast? I wasn't happy to see him go, but he definately was not indespensable and mitchell is, in my mind, an upgrade. - Have you watched Luc Bourdon play? There is absolutely no reason why he cannot make this team. I really don't get where you're coming from on this. - Vigneault...time will tell. - Luongo...every cup winning team has a goalie that steals games. He is capable of doing just that. - I think the hockey analysts at TSN might have a better bead on player potential than you and I. Well, definately you. - So, who are you cheering for? - For the record, although I hope the Canucks can make a run, my money is on Anaheim for the cup. - Thu, 7 Sep 2006 3:48pm | ||
| the wad User Info... | who is jason king? why should anyone believe that the nucks are capable of anything? luongo has played no playoff games. look for the curse of the couv to be back in full swing. lupul, sykora, stoll, hemsky, horcoff, smyth, and the rookie of the year, robbie schremp, are going to really do things to you people. all sorts of things, some unpleasant, some downright weird, but you will be fucked, and fucked thoroughly. you will...die. - Fri, 8 Sep 2006 12:31am | ||
| trevor corey User Info... | Pppppthhtttt! If the Greasers didn't practically score on themselves the S.C. would be in Canada now. The only reason the Greasers even made the play-offs was cause Van had room issues. You sound like you really need to get laid pal (frustrated pimply virgin perhaps). The fact that you don't know who Jason King is tells me youve been a fan since the second round of last years play-offs. The Greasers shit the bed, just like Calgarey before them, you can get off the band wagon now The 2006/07 Canucks wioll show the Alberta teams how to finish. http://www.my-nhl.com/# Oh yeah, as if the Greasers are gonna go anywhere without Pronger, hahahahahahaha!LMAO! - Fri, 8 Sep 2006 2:16am Edited: Fri, 8 Sep 2006 2:22am | ||
| trevor corey User Info... | "the couv"? Who is this ass pimple? Better be carefull the wad or I'll put some preparation H on you and make you disappear. Bwahahahahaha!(evil laughing) - Fri, 8 Sep 2006 2:33am Edited: Fri, 8 Sep 2006 2:34am | ||
| mica User Info... | someone grab a rag and wipe off the wad. - Fri, 8 Sep 2006 8:36am | ||
| ML7Mike User Info... | Jason King is a rookie RW who was sidelined last season with a concussion. He has decent stats, considering he was used sparingly on the 3rd line. He scored 10 goals in 6 games with the Moose after returning from the concussion. Canucks stats: 2003-2004 47gp 12goals 9assists.. He was en route for a 20-25 goal season as a rookie. NHL rookie of the month for November with eight goals and 11 points in 14 GP. In 2001-02 - King led the entire Canadian Hockey League in scoring, with 63 goals. Possible backup goalies this year are Wade Flaherty and Steve Shields who I think have both been invited to training camp.. both potentially top-notch backups. *speak too soon, King supposedly walked out of camp today (and Burrows signed) - Fri, 8 Sep 2006 9:51am Edited: Fri, 8 Sep 2006 11:59am | ||
| Curmudgeon Rocker User Info... | King walked out?! /what - the salami wasn't folded right? - Sat, 9 Sep 2006 12:09am | ||
| ML7Mike User Info... |  Here's a weird signing tho: The New York Islanders will announce today that they have signed goalie Rick DiPietro to a 15-year, $67.5 million contract. a 15 yr contract in NHL?? with a crappy team too hahah, go Garth! - Tue, 12 Sep 2006 10:21am | ||
| ML7Mike User Info... |  it's Garth Snow for those who dont know, ex Canuck goalie, now GM of the Islanders. - Tue, 12 Sep 2006 10:21am | ||
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| ml7mike User Info... | He was Islanders goalie previously,and probably made more money, but now he has the power. That Wang guy running the Islanders is more fucked up than Mike Milbury. And in other news, Kesler getting almost $2 mill with his experience/performance is retarded. "Sources tell TSN that the Philadelphia Flyers have signed Vancouver Canucks restricted free agent forward Ryan Kesler to an offer sheet. The deal would be worth $1.9 million for one season. The Vancouver Canucks have seven days to match this offer, but if they choose to walk away for financial reasons, the compensation paid to the Canucks for the Flyers manouever will be a 2nd round draft pick. " - Tue, 12 Sep 2006 1:24pm | ||
| Soap Dodger User Info... | Figures that Clarke would be the first GM to make a RFA offer sheet under the new CBA. With one full season under his belt (with 23 points), Kesler is not worth 1.9 million. Now the Canucks have to either screw themselves with their cap situation or lose a promising young forward for next to nothing. Lame. - Tue, 12 Sep 2006 1:33pm | ||
| mica User Info... | Fuck, I don't dislike many people that I don't know...but I really dislike Bobby Clarke. I wonder if Karma has anything to do with Philly's annual injury problems? Hey Andy, do you want in on our hockey pool this year? Its a good one. I won last year - took home almost 700 bucks. - Tue, 12 Sep 2006 1:58pm | ||
| trevor corey User Info... | Fuck Bobby Clarke, fuck Ryan (whiney american) Kesler. There is a ton of good players out there, we don't need any overpaid prima donnas. 1.9million$, for Kes, hahahahahahahahaha! Go back to America. See ya! On a side note- Bertuzzi wants to come back next season when he becomes ufa. - Tue, 12 Sep 2006 2:08pm Edited: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 2:10pm | ||
| STBP User Info... | Kesler signed I see. I wonder if he's Clarke's distant nephew or something. Bertuzzi would be crazy to come back to Vancouver. Doubt that would happen in a million years. The Islanders signing is nutty.. don't know much about this Wong fella but recent events would suggest a know-nothing owner with money to burn, and ambitions to play Stienbrenner type games. I feel sorry for Islanders fans. One group I surely don't feel sorry for are Canucks fans! You've had your "success" years, now it's time to feel the pain brought on by an ill-advised chance in GM. 500 or bust! A note for mica in particular: You're rooting for your Canucks to go all the way, but predict another team? What kind of fan is that? At least you're realistic, but cmon.. get behind your boys! Your hopes will be go up in FLAMES just like the logo at the top suggests. btw, I both predict and hope the Cup lands in Calgary come spring '07! - Fri, 15 Sep 2006 4:41pm | ||
| Rex User Info... | calgary is garbage. they play garbage, unexciting hockey which is fine if you're a garbage, unexciting person from the gargabe, unexciting province of alberta. kthxbye. - Sat, 16 Sep 2006 2:05am Edited: Sat, 16 Sep 2006 2:06am | ||
| trevor corey User Info... | Hehe. Trevor been drinkin tonight. Trevor don't usually drink no more. Haha. Calgary fans are funny. People think nuckleheads are funny too. Right now I love Calgary. Not the nhl team, just the peoiple. Vancouvewr Canucks may never win the STP, but we'll never stap being fanatics! Go Canucks go! All the way ! Oh yeah, and by the way, WE GOT LUONGOOO! - Sat, 16 Sep 2006 2:38am | ||
| alcoholly User Info... | Calgary cheats. Edmonton cheats more and then gets pissed off when they get caught. Ryan Kesler gets 1.9 million, Trevor Linden signs for 600,000. Save your guff......... there's often more value in intangibles. And apparently the Kesler deal means they have to dump somebody because they are overbudget. - Sat, 16 Sep 2006 8:03am | ||
| mica User Info... | stbp - you're a flames fan...that explains alot. i cheer for the canucks. but, if i was betting the farm, it would be on anaheim. i'd almost feel ok for flames fans if calgary won the cup. at least then there would be an upside to living in alberta. - Sat, 16 Sep 2006 10:22am | ||
| J User Info... | when did calgary cheat? and when did edmonton cheat? please let me know, cuz i sure as hell dont remember any sort of "cheating".... and secondly, you cant be a fan of one team and then say you'd bet the farm on another... if your a true fan, you'd live and die by your team(metaphorically speaking of course)(im just buggin' ya mica, nothin' personal :P) either way, i enjoy watching the canucks... but i also enjoy the oil when they're on t.v. but spongeknuckles ireland knows i cant stand the fucking weazy flames... - Sat, 16 Sep 2006 3:30pm | ||
| cadaverus User Info... | Canucks are Doomed. piss poor defensive core (with very few exceptions). Luongo will stop 60 shots a night and wonder where the D was on the 8 that beat him. The 1.9 million dollar wonder will choke on his inflated salary and become the highest paid skate sharpener in Canuck history. - Sat, 16 Sep 2006 5:23pm | ||
| Mr. Hell User Info... | I am expecting more of the same from the Canucks. The only upside is that there is a chance that someone(s) will step up from the unexpected zone and surprise everyone with amazing play. I think it is more than the players and coaching and management in Van. It's the feeling and weather and geography and fans and all the incidental shit that adds up to Vancouver pulling the morale right out of players. Fuck the Flames and the city they come from. - Sat, 16 Sep 2006 7:19pm Edited: Sat, 16 Sep 2006 7:20pm | ||
| Curmudgeon Rocker User Info... | Still waiting for Don Lever to come out of retirement..... /Jiri Bubla? - Sun, 17 Sep 2006 8:31am Edited: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 8:33am | ||
| the wad User Info... | mms://media.tsn.ca/nhl/hotdog_hi.wmv#0;1.000;0;0;1:2;2:2 and he'll be lucky to get a spot on the fourth line. - Sun, 17 Sep 2006 11:59am | ||
| trevor corey User Info... | Meat wad is a funny guy. - Sun, 17 Sep 2006 3:17pm | ||
| ML7Mike User Info... | meat wad rules yo! Luongo let the first shot he ever faced as a Canuck get in haha.. what a tool he must be feeling like! - Fri, 22 Sep 2006 9:34am | ||
| mica User Info... | yeah, i know i'd sure feel like an idiot if i was known as one of the top five in the game and made seven million per year. it would be pretty hard to get up in the morning. probably just sit in my bathrobe and watch daytime television. - Fri, 22 Sep 2006 10:40am | ||
| trevor corey User Info... | pre-season dont mean shit. why am i still awake? Yo! - Sat, 23 Sep 2006 3:55am Edited: Sat, 23 Sep 2006 3:55am | ||
| Mi*coll* User Info... | my god, that is pretty crazy, colin. but it's just a party trick..... - Sun, 24 Sep 2006 7:48am | ||
| trevor corey User Info... | Canucks win one! Nazzy and the sedins together at last. Keep em together I say. Make for some sweet highlights. Jan Bulis with a sweet wrister, nice. Sweet, sweet, sweet. All u haters will burn, burn I say! GO CANUCKS GO! - Mon, 25 Sep 2006 9:50am | ||
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| J User Info... | good to have the faith... but its also good to be realistic ;) preseason isn't the greatest for the canucks right now, and some will argue that reg. season will take off. But, in my opinion, preseason counts as much as reg. season and playoffs. Every game should be played hard and to the highest intensity level. Preseason is also a good indication of team morale and chemistry. Right now, the canucks look like a team in the process. I dont expect much from them this season but hey a couple wins here and a couple wins there to boost confidence and then in the long run we'll have a cup competitive team. Just have patience and dont be like every other nuck fan, ie) fall off the bandwagon after the first loss :P or 'root' for anahiem :P(j/k mica) - Sat, 30 Sep 2006 2:58pm | ||
| Curmudgeon Rocker User Info... | I'd rather be playin squash. Naw - jus kiddin - poundin brewskis and watching the nucks is o.k. too. - Sun, 1 Oct 2006 8:47am Edited: Sun, 1 Oct 2006 8:47am | ||
| J User Info... | haven't seen you around the squash club lately;) tho i haven't been playing myself ... btw its justin - Sun, 1 Oct 2006 9:53am | ||
| Curmudgeon Rocker User Info... | Jesus that's you Justin! Holy! I defected to the Cedar Hill courts. /total digression - I heard a rumour that Pronger HAD to go to LA because he knocked up a sportscaster. A rabid Oilers fan told me this. - Tue, 3 Oct 2006 7:35am | ||
| Dick Tater User Info... | Canucks 2 wins 0 loses, thus far. - Sat, 7 Oct 2006 7:29am | ||
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