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| J User Info... | so whats everyone opinon on: bands spending more time on their myspace page than actually practicing? - Wed, 22 Mar 2006 12:56pm Edited: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 12:58pm | ||
| lonemonk User Info... | Is it just me or is myspace overrated as hell? I find the standard layout to be pretty fucking ugly. In the old days http://www.mp3.com used to allow you to make modifications easily to make your site stand out a bit, but it didn't take a long time to accomplish. Even the default pages looked pretty professional. MP3.com isn't really the same thing anymore, but it seems like a perfect example of something innovative being replaced by something half-assed. Myspaces just look plain budget, I haven't seen a sharp and well-informed one yet. Not one I would visit regularly thats for sure. If one were laying out a good web page from scratch, it would take time, well designed work always does. It shouldn't cut into practise time though, or what the hell is being advertised? - Wed, 22 Mar 2006 5:17pm Edited: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 5:26pm | ||
| ROSS B AY User Info... | you get what you pay for. - Wed, 22 Mar 2006 6:26pm Edited: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 6:26pm | ||
| You Enjoy Myself User Info... | I like the way the music player works roughly 1/2 of the time and it's glitchy as fuck. erm..... http://www.myspace.com/sanijav - Wed, 22 Mar 2006 6:36pm Edited: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 6:36pm | ||
| H User Info... | Really a band should only spend about an hour to two a week on myspace. And while I think a band myspace is essential, (lonemonk you may not use it, but something like 64 million other people do) it is not the end all be all of band promotion. Make a webpage, do the garageband.com and the like, get in indie magazines and on college radio. and for fucks sakes, play shows. (that means practice!) - Wed, 22 Mar 2006 8:59pm Edited: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 9:03pm | ||
| lonemonk User Info... | I agree H, its all part of promotion and it deserves a certain amount of effort. I'm just ranting about the fact that I didn't find myspaces offerings to be all that well put together. At least not from the customization point of view. Its very hard to make ones page look in any way unique from the other 64 million people. Perhaps thats coming, or maybe people just don't do it yet. Done to excess, promotion should never take the place of practice. We're all agreeing on that point. - Wed, 22 Mar 2006 9:49pm Edited: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 9:58pm | ||
| J User Info... | i agree to a certain degree... my opinion of myspace isn't that high. Mind u the audience on there is vast and isn't matched by any other promo tool a band could use OTHEr than using your own resources at hand(ie, generating a local fan base) it just seems that musicians are taking the promotion thing a bit too far in terms of their myspace pages and stuff. Granted your audience is going to be larger, but then you spend more than a couple hours a week into a "free" webspace/page to make it look "cool" when those hours should be spent into making the music, not neccicarily better, but better in a group sense. Im glad im not the only one that feels this way, cause it seems that if your band doesn't have a myspace.com pagge your just not cool... farce - Thu, 23 Mar 2006 2:34pm Edited: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 2:40pm | ||
| Mr. Hell User Info... | I think the genius of myspace is how the network between everyone's pages bring people to your page that would otherise never hear of you. Like most web pages, it looks like crap. But like the wise Ross B ay said, it's free. - Thu, 23 Mar 2006 4:04pm Edited: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 4:06pm | ||
| The Box Drone User Info... | The genius of myspace is that it sucks monkey-balls but we use it anyways. But yes, it IS free... and apparently that's enough for me. - Thu, 23 Mar 2006 4:27pm Edited: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 4:28pm | ||
| Mr. Hell User Info... | Exactly! Now go be a good friend to Tom and click a sponsor! - Thu, 23 Mar 2006 5:04pm Edited: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 5:05pm | ||
| gazebo tree User Info... | Its a double edged sword. On one hand you have the "free" promotion. Which can be a benefit if you dont piss everyone off in the process and use it effectively to get the word out. On the other you have the fact that its free (so dont expect big label promotion), there's allot of ego shit on there, and its getting to be pretty cliche. Meh, who cares ! But lets focus on the positive. The more people that see hear your music, the more interest you "may" create. - Thu, 23 Mar 2006 7:29pm Edited: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 7:33pm | ||
| Mi*coll* User Info... | Myspace is a great fucking concept that has been implemented poorly. Hopefully now that Rupert Murdoch (ie Fox) owns it, the quality will improve... because he is known for quality products... But seriously, I think the market will dictate the necessity for quality and consistency. If Myspace can't offer that, thyey will fail. Hell, if there were a better alternative right now, I would jump on it. Hey gazebo tree, any affiliation with gazeebow unit? http://www.myspace.com/gazeebowunit they fucking rule! - Thu, 23 Mar 2006 10:34pm Edited: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 10:39pm | ||
| lonemonk User Info... | I didn't realize Fox bought the thing. It was only a matter of time I guess. Myspace has certainly become the thing to do, and I've notice a thousandfold increase in the number of Myspace URLs floating around everywhere. I'm not knocking the concept at all. Fox might just fuck up what is cool about the original concept. Often big companies don't know or care what happens at the grass roots. Most of the popular music sites that have embraced big-business have changed themselves and locked out the DIY crowds. (Which typically have little money to spend directly on promotion) My original rant mentioned a perfect example: mp3.com For a free product they originally offered an awesome service, you wouldn't recognize it at all now. I was so proud when one of my songs had just beat out 'Car Wash' by Rose Royce in the dailing listening stats. That only lasted a few hours I can tell you. Even though we're in the small-time section of the industry, a community like Livevic here I this site to be as interesting as the larger examples. But its still geared toward local-appeal of course. - Fri, 24 Mar 2006 8:44am Edited: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 8:52am | ||
| Curmudgeon Rocker User Info... | I just like to get as many skank friends as possible. - Fri, 24 Mar 2006 11:03am Edited: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 11:09am | ||
| J User Info... | i dont doubt that its a great tool... but should a band spend more time promoting themselves on this "site" or should they focus on tasks at hand (ie practice, writing, recording... getting better?) the internet is a great tool for bands to use, i never disagree there... but all i was originally saying is that i see 9 out of 10 bands that have a "cool" looking myspace.com page but when i see them live, the luster has completely gone and all that is left is a band that loves to play in front of a mirror - Fri, 24 Mar 2006 2:29pm Edited: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 2:32pm | ||
| Jeremy Baker User Info... | J, Product (music) is always the most important. But if your goal is to be a "rock star" you better be putting more than a 1 or 2 hours a week into promotion. It better be more like, every other moment of your day that isn't spent creating your art or sleeping. MySpace is great b/c it has reached that critical mass where EVERYONE is on there and it allows people to easily and quickly sample your music. The "working" MySpace aspect comes in by getting people to try your music and then converting them to fans. The value MySpace brings to your indie band is so great. You can reach millions of people with little work and without having to press $$$ worth of records, stickers, and postage. You can find your niche fan base and side-step traditional media. As someone said above, MySpace makes it easier for people to discover you as well... just having a website will not generate that sort of accidental traffic. Use MySpace. I loved MP3.com back in the day... I miss that site. LiveVictoria is also a great resource but I don't think the mass group of music fans in Victoria know what it is or where it is (I am sure Scott could prove or confirm this point with his own research of site traffic). When you post on here, you're preaching to the choir. To me, that makes Live Victoria very powerful but for an entirely different reason than MySpace. Here you talk to core Victoria music fans and music related businesses and other bands. But you need to craft your message differently here than you would on MySpace. That is my two-cents. - Sat, 25 Mar 2006 3:02pm Edited: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 3:12pm | ||
| death User Info... | well lots of things said here,remember when a band could not get heard without spending alot of money first,and targeting the people you wanted to here you was almost impossible ?,thank the gods for myspace because it makes the playing field level for everyone rich or not and what ever style and there is nothing that could be negative about that. - Tue, 28 Mar 2006 10:46am Edited: Tue, 28 Mar 2006 11:10am | ||
| J User Info... | I AGREE THAT MYSPACE IS A GOOD TOOL...Only 2 people in this thread realizes what im talking about ... i whole heartly agree with you jeremy but the orignal intent was not to bash myspace but to intently say that its not a way to get better as a band, obeveously tho... but that's not really what i mean. ok here's a senario, band starts out, writes a set worth of material... ok material enuff to fill a set, then they go buck nutty on promo but only use myspace as their promo material. (X) band spends how ever long it takes to jazz these pages up, and loses that (X) amount of time for rehersal. Now granted that promotion is half the battle if not 3/4's of it. But should promotion be more important to a band than actually creating the music "they" (X - band) want to hear/make? After playing the guitar for the better part of my life i can honestly say i would spend way more time writing my material and less, but still a good amount, of time on promo(that's what a manager is for) That said, I hope i dont anger people into thinking I hate myspace... its cool and a good avenue(not artery) for a band to use. (i dont know if i can convey what im trying to say through text but im just hopin'!) and as jeremy said before if you wanna be big you gotta sport the goods... ie)get your name out there and spend all your non waking hours promo-ing the shit outta yourself... but that doesn't mean just one method even tho its easy... - Tue, 28 Mar 2006 2:47pm Edited: Tue, 28 Mar 2006 3:01pm | ||
| Jeremy Baker User Info... | for sure J... I ahve seen many bands with GREAT MySpace pages and lots of presence (is that the word?) but not the quality sound. That will do you more harm than good. Sound first, be proud of it, then go out and sell it. And you are right J, bands need to work all the avenues of media available to them. - Tue, 28 Mar 2006 3:44pm Edited: Tue, 28 Mar 2006 3:46pm | ||
| The Box Drone User Info... | Yes, I'll echo Jeremy... If a band over-promo's themselves without having the goods to back it up, they'll probably see the downside pretty quick. At least it'll be a learning experience. They aren't going to fool anyone past the time it takes for their song to load & start playing. And just because I hate myspace doesn't mean I don't recognize utilize & applaud it's benefits. - Tue, 28 Mar 2006 5:00pm Edited: Tue, 28 Mar 2006 5:07pm | ||
| Andy McBeer User Info... | I miss the old days where only elite punk rock snobs knew of non-label bands. Now everyone and their dog is a guru. How irritating. - Tue, 28 Mar 2006 5:01pm Edited: Tue, 28 Mar 2006 5:02pm | ||
| H User Info... | If you wanna see the proper use of myspace and what a couple hours a week will do: http://www.myspace.com/brittblack Shameless Self Promotion :) And yes I fully agree that you should spend every waking free minute promoting your band, but don't rely on just myspace. And please dont ever make myspace your band webpage. YUck - Tue, 28 Mar 2006 10:08pm Edited: Tue, 28 Mar 2006 10:12pm | ||
| J User Info... | that's exactly what should be done on myspace, its still sorta plain-ish but with added touches here and there it looks good... no moving crap or long load times etc... (and the music is good too). again, i dont wanna seem like i repeat myself every post, I totally agree that myspace is a good tool and this brittblack page is a good example of what should be put into something 'free' like myspace. And thanks for re-affirming my opinion on the whole myspace webpage being the only means of promo a band uses... its wrong! lol .. Anyhow, back to CounterStrike for me ! - Wed, 29 Mar 2006 12:19pm Edited: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 12:22pm | ||
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