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ska-t
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Title: Incredible film: what really happened on 9/11, quite credible:
Source: Dylan Avery
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Published: Feb 12, 2006
Author: Dylan Avery



Incredible film about what really happened on 9/11, quite credible:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2023320890224991194&q=loose+change - Sun, 12 Mar 2006 11:52pm
alcoholly
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I actually took the time to watch the whole thing. Very well done. Wonder if the US government has shown up at this guy's door yet. - Mon, 13 Mar 2006 9:42am
Mofo
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will take a boo, but I am skeptical about conspiracy theory movies, Americans always seem to have a conspiracy theory about everything, can't say I blame them though.. I'll give it a boo - Mon, 13 Mar 2006 10:47am
YERMOMSMOM
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I d/led this a few months ago, watched it a couple times, very good info, I think some of this stuff makes sense. - Mon, 13 Mar 2006 8:30pm
Nik Olaz
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Too far fetched. But critical thinking is always a good thing. - Mon, 13 Mar 2006 9:24pm
lonemonk
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Conspiracy theories or not, the whole thing didn't go down the way we are familiar with seeing it.

This guy isn't the only one examining the different planes and jet engines found onsite. There's more to it, I have become convinced. Most of the important evidence was scapped pretty early on (same week as the event). Now, you'd think if you really want to get the bottom of it, you'd keep any and all pieces to the aircraft. Most of it was sold as scrap very quickly. - Tue, 14 Mar 2006 1:21pm
Dr.DoomXXX
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I found it to be quite blurry which made it difficult to examine what I was seeing whenever the guy said to "look close". Also it seemed to be held up by a few misconceptions like when he was wondering why the tower that was attacked 2nd fell first. made sense to me seeing as the 2nd crash was much lower which would place a lot more weight on the impact sight. There were a few other wholes in the case but there's definatley something wierd going on. The lack of wreckage at the pentagon for example caught my attention. When I next have time on my hands i'll watch it all the way through. - Mon, 20 Mar 2006 7:21pm Edited: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 7:29pm
Nik Olaz
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Everyone should read this
http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/defense/1227842.html?page=1&c=y
After seeing that film.

Of course if you're nuts about conspiracies, you'd think that article was "set up" too... - Mon, 20 Mar 2006 9:40pm Edited: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 9:50pm
Mi*coll*
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Man, it is nice that a decent, non-schizophrenic source (Popular Mechanics) finally weighed in about this. My friend has been going on and on about this crap for a year or two now, but this article will straighten everything out.

"Quite credible" indeed-- is it the fact that two twenty-year
old kids did it with only access to television news footage and paranoid internet postings? Please! - Wed, 22 Mar 2006 9:36pm Edited: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 9:41pm
Ward Ensemble
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ocnspiracy is so much more fun, though! Don't you remember being 20? Isn't that the age where you know everything? Good point about credibility, however there are plausible discrepancies being spotlighted, and the footage has ALWAYS seemed to conflict with the generally accepted story to me...but I also liked the Michael Moore stuff. Journalism, sensationalism....whats the diff? - Wed, 22 Mar 2006 11:13pm Edited: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 11:19pm
Mi*coll*
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That film is a far cry from Michael Moore, my friend. Did you read that PM article? The film is thoroughly debunked-- nearly point for point.

Generally, I would say that the film displays the worst kind of selective editing, taking quotes out of context and playing on peoples scientific naivety. The manipulative score makes me want to puke. It is a propaganda piece pure and simple, and a bad one at that. - Thu, 23 Mar 2006 10:40pm Edited: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 4:56pm
Ward Ensemble
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I don't blindly believe in any piece of journalism, unless it is a publication like Popular Mechanics or Scientific American. I just enjoy being entertained. I watch kung fu, science fiction and horror movies while realizing that these people are actors, and are not actually in the situations they are in. Sensationalism in journalism has made me sceptical of ALL journalists, including Michael Moore. If the Bush administration stooped to killing thousands of their own citizens, innocently working away, then why wouldn't they snuff two young smartasses who tried to "expose them". If this was the real deal, they would be whacked, and the site shut down. I just liked the piece... it was interesting. - Tue, 28 Mar 2006 1:47pm Edited: Tue, 28 Mar 2006 1:54pm
Inhalien
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I believe you'll find the best information on 911 and why it was a planned operation below. Obviously there are lots of sites devoted to this - just google 911.

http://www.rense.com/Datapages/popmechdat.htm

http://perso.wanadoo.fr/jpdesm/pentagon/investigation77.htm
http://www.rense.com/Datapages/new911data.htm

http://www.prisonplanet.com/911.html - Tue, 28 Mar 2006 1:58pm Edited: Tue, 28 Mar 2006 2:05pm
Mi*coll*
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mmmkay, your name is "Inhalien"... - Tue, 28 Mar 2006 9:11pm Edited: Tue, 28 Mar 2006 9:15pm
Inhalien
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Yup - I gots it from a poster I saw once. The poster had an alien on it, having a smoke, with a caption something to the effect of "take me to your dealer". - Wed, 29 Mar 2006 11:15am Edited: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 11:18am
Mi*coll*
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How did I know - Wed, 29 Mar 2006 8:36pm Edited: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 8:36pm
Ward Ensemble
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Common sense, thank your personally accepted deity for granting it to you. ( Or be happy to be the among the smartest of the walking fish, your option really.) - Fri, 14 Apr 2006 10:51pm Edited: Fri, 14 Apr 2006 10:55pm
ska-t
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loose change
second edition:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6302880871177953720&q=loose+change+9-11&pl=true - Mon, 24 Apr 2006 10:52am Edited: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 11:00am
XY_SATAN
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Damaged by falling debris, the building then endures a fire that rages for hours

Second, a fifth-floor fire burned for up to 7 hours. "There was no firefighting in WTC 7," Sunder says. Investigators believe the fire was fed by tanks of diesel fuel that many tenants used to run emergency generators. Most tanks throughout the building were fairly small, but a generator on the fifth floor was connected to a large tank in the basement via a pressurized line. Says Sunder: "Our current working hypothesis is that this pressurized line was supplying fuel [to the fire] for a long period of time."
WTC 7 might have withstood the physical damage it received, or the fire that burned for hours, but those combined factors--along with the building's unusual construction--were enough to set off the chain-reaction collapse

http://www.prisonplanet.com/011904wtc7.html Click on the video .
Professional Demolition of World Trade Center Building 7
Larry Silverstein, the owner of the WTC complex, admitted on a September 2002 PBS documentary, 'America Rebuilds' that he and the NYFD decided to 'pull' WTC 7 on the day of the attack. The word 'pull' is industry jargon for taking a building down with explosives.
We have attempted to call Larry Silverstein's office on several occasions. Silverstein has never issued a retraction for his comments.
Photos taken moments before the collapse of WTC 7 show small office fires on just two floors.
Firefighters were told to move away from the building moments before it collapsed. - Tue, 25 Apr 2006 7:26pm Edited: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 7:28pm
Mi*coll*
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http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/defense/1227842.html?page=1&c=y

read it.

That seocnd film is absolutely as shitty as the first. They still use quotes and video clips out of context and don't have a shred of evidence. It is utter manipulation and makes me sick that people would exploit other people's media naivety to that extent.

Wait... is that an interview with Hunter S Thompson? He was schizo!

And, wait, a cancelled CIA plot to fake a terrorist attack on a drone over Cuba is in somewhat of a different league than a completed massacre of thousands of Americans. The CIA could never pull that off. Do you have any idea how much manpower would be required to do that? Do you realize that all it would take would be one person who had any morals to end the whole thing?

Ultimately, you have to put a huge amount of faith in the CIA to believe this conspiracy theory. And don't forget that those are the same people who didn't realize that the Bay of Pigs was surrounded by swamp. - Mon, 1 May 2006 4:40pm
jordan F.
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i dont know what really happend but there are alot of links on here explain the cover ups.

http://groups.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=groups.groupProfile&groupID=100649623&Mytoken=F08D1686-1436-9898-F456148C159553643896803

later - Mon, 1 May 2006 10:32pm
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