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CSick...pedal question
| Message Board > Music Chitchat - Heavy > CSick...pedal question |
| stringbender User Info... | Colin, I am in need of a distortion/overdrive pedal with some versatility. I don't play metal/punk, but looking for a dynamically sensitive pedal that can give Crazy Horse/Matt Mays/Muse/Radiohead (Bends) type drive and crunch, but something that can also do a great creamy tone. I have a Strat with single coils, an ES-335, and a Epi Wildkat and a Fender Hot Rod Deluxe. I am leaning towards either the Proco Deucetone RAT (for the flexibility, but I hear it isn't very sensitive to playing dynamics....true?) or a Big Muff.... pros and cons of each? I have read all over the net, but I know you know your stuff.. also, does L&M carry RATS? - Mon, 2 May 2005 8:45am | ||
| cooper User Info... | I'm no Colin, but I'll give my 2 cents. Big Muff will give you a creamy, fuzzy tone, but it's not versatile at all. I've heard nothing but bad things about the Deucetone, but have never personally played it. I'd recommend a Rat2. I'm in the market for one myself. If you are looking for fuzzier and you have some cash to drop, I know [+} would recommend a Zvex Fuzz Factory, which is what Muse uses (I think). As far as I know, L&M does carry ProCo products, but I've only ever seen the Deucetone and the Vintage Rat. - Mon, 2 May 2005 10:09am | ||
| stringbender User Info... | I am also starting to consider the MXR double-shot. Will check out the Zvex. Thanks for tips - Mon, 2 May 2005 10:18am | ||
| [+} User Info... | mxr distortion+ (vintage is the best and sometimes cheaper than the new ones) deucetone sounds great from their clips, but i still haven't tried one in person. i would, personally, check out the danelectro french toast fuzz. it has a HUGE wall of fuzz sound. or even the dano fabtone. both have that arena rock (see: muse) vibe to them. and yes i DO recommend the zvex fuzz factory. check it out here: http://media.zvex.com/fuzzfactory.mov .. - Mon, 2 May 2005 10:24am | ||
| [+} User Info... | and also, zvex just came out with the new vexter series fuzz factory.. it's cheaper because it's not hand painted. so that might be a good option. - Mon, 2 May 2005 10:36am | ||
| Zippgunn User Info... | The Rat is, IMO, easily the most versatile distortion pedal ever. The fact that the tone knob actually makes a big difference even with a slight adjustment seems to be the key. if you are looking for something totally exotic in a dist box you could try the infamous Prunes and Custard which is what they call a "modulation" distortion pedal. It makes guitars (and especially basses) sound like a synth sort of when you crank it up having a lot of dynamic input available (the harder you play the more pronounced the effect).. Expensive though. - Mon, 2 May 2005 11:21am | ||
| stringbender User Info... | thanks, thanks and thanks. I think the Deucetone Rat is a definite contender (versatility, two-channel 6 modes) as are: the ZVex Fuzz Factory (for harmonic distortion) MXR doubleshot (I like the EQ on both stages) can't afford to go for anything really boutique. - Mon, 2 May 2005 11:53am | ||
| cooper User Info... | Rat 2 ! http://procosound.com/ratindex.htm - Mon, 2 May 2005 12:21pm | ||
| stringbender User Info... | any particulare reason for RAT 2 vs Deucetone RAT? Ie. what can the RAT 2 do that the Deucetone cannot(and the Deucetone can do a great deal more)? - Mon, 2 May 2005 12:45pm | ||
| [+} User Info... | i'd go for a single pedal that can do it really well, rather than a double pedal that does it alright. again, IMO. - Mon, 2 May 2005 9:37pm | ||
| mica User Info... | Tonebone Hot British - very versatile http://www.tonebone.com/tbone_hotbrit.htm - Tue, 3 May 2005 8:44am | ||
| [+} User Info... | not versatile. but sounds killer. i also have one for sale. if anyones interested. - Tue, 3 May 2005 2:15pm | ||
| csic User Info... | Well here is my holy grail of an answer. If you are on a budget I would recomend getting and 0d-3 pedal from boss, or the ts7 tube screamer and the danelectro french toast fuzz. there are many ways you could potentially use these pedals. 1. run them by themselves 2 do what i did and keep the overdrive on all the time, using your volume control on the guitar to get you clean tone, and then kick in the fuzz for some extra juice. I would run the fuzz before the overdrive. 3. running fuzz after overdrive, if you keep the gain down on the fuzz this will kick up when you engage the overdrive. makes for a very bright big muff tone. If you are not on a budget I would still buy this rig, or a vintage rat or a maxon sd-9. the maxon sd-9 is the most over looked pedal, its like having 2 ts-9's on, then you roll your volume back and its like you turned one off ! - Tue, 3 May 2005 6:08pm | ||
| KnifeGhost User Info... | I once had a vintage RAT..... I miss the son of a bitch..... Sadly, I have no way to justify tracking one down....... - Fri, 6 May 2005 6:06pm | ||
| WILLEM User Info... | you will probably dissagree, good fuck you zoom, pso2, or such makes, palm-top studios these can also work as really good effects boxxes for oohhhh djs, if ya know how to use them right they have like 50 different presets, for guitar bass, and vocals, you can edit perameters, and save the presets... go for the black distortion, you can edit any effects, and save them for future use.....do it These effects are awsome, mind ya, they are only as good as what you make of em, so anyways... thatz enough outa me - Sat, 7 May 2005 9:30am | ||
| Kimberleykaos User Info... | Dear Willem, are you allowing Cass to type for you again...? It just seemed so elequently worded... PS- See you Friday @ Superstition :) - Sat, 7 May 2005 7:51pm | ||
| Colin {Sic} User Info... | zoom pedals have lousy tone, the only good pedal they made was their fuzz. Other than that, garbage. The only player I have seen use zoom is Prince, and who wants to sound like prince. (well actually I do) - Tue, 10 May 2005 11:36am | ||
| [+} User Info... | amen. - Tue, 10 May 2005 3:21pm | ||
| cooper User Info... | wut! the 505II is tha sh!t - Tue, 10 May 2005 4:28pm | ||
| JasonLove User Info... |  Colin, bring back the fro. Aidan, get rid of that gay litle symbol. COUNT IT! - Sat, 14 May 2005 3:47am | ||
| [+} User Info... | jason, learn how to spell your own band's name right. fuck you on the cut. - Sat, 14 May 2005 11:43am | ||
| WILLEM User Info... | you know nothing. My pedal rips, my guitar work does too. if ya ever hear me play it you will know. - Sun, 15 May 2005 12:08pm | ||
| A. Angus User Info... | I have to agree on the Pro Co. Rat suggestion, as I've had the original Rat for years, originally purchased for bass distortion. On the bass, it never really worked out, as the sound came out sounding really "clunky" and undefined, as well it really squashed the low-end frequencies completely. Although with a passive bass, it sounds much smoother. On my recently purchased guitar, it sounds great, even through my shitty home practice amp, producing an awesome distortion that doesn't mask the sound of the induvidual strings when chording. Kinda reminds me of the mid-range sound of many of the NWOBHM bands of the early 80's - which is a damn good thing! - Sun, 15 May 2005 8:14pm | ||
| stringbender User Info... | Well, I think the only solution is more than one pedal. I just tried out a ton this weekend, and came home with a Dallas Arbiter Fuzz Face. Doesn't do everything I am looking for, but I love the crunch out of that thing - Mon, 16 May 2005 8:02am | ||
| JasonLove User Info... | Yeah, The fuzz face is preatty hip. Something about it though just rubs me the wronog way. I don't know what it is. SD-1 for life! - Mon, 16 May 2005 9:58am | ||
| [+} User Info... | SD-1 is an overdrive jason. the fuzz face is a fuzz. apple/orange. the arbiter is a fantastic choice, i think colin will agree as he had one on his board for a brief cameo appearance. if it weren't for the fact that a fuzz factory can nail the fuzz face sound and is about 1/3 the size, i'd look into getting some more nasty fuzz all up in my board. - Mon, 16 May 2005 2:37pm | ||
| alain User Info... | Amen. Here's to hoping guitaris plus will get them in. It'll be a near future purchase, no doubt. - Mon, 16 May 2005 9:58pm | ||
| JasonLove User Info... | fuzz. overdrive. distortion. Stupid guitar players. My instrument goes bang. No pedals.com - Thu, 19 May 2005 3:50pm | ||
| [+} User Info... | even order harmonics, shit-yeah. - Thu, 19 May 2005 5:24pm | ||
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