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whats the difference between MESA amps?
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WIL
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i finally got some cash and i'm getting a new mesa head first of all. whats the real difference between, single, dual, triple, and the roadster? i'm think about going for the dual recto but the i found a roadster that is a bit cheaper. whats the difference between em? - Wed, 16 Dec 2009 8:26am
TheGray Pixie
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The internet is your friend.

http://www.mesaboogie.com/

. - Wed, 16 Dec 2009 9:48am
Mike S
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I use a dual. I think one of the main differences between single/dual/triple is the overall power output.. So if you plan to jam in smaller rooms and you like a more driven sound then a single might be best because the tubes will saturate at a lower volume.. I find the triples to be overkill for any practical purpose unless you are after a more 'hard rock' sound because you will have to turn it up pretty high to really saturate the tubes for a metal overdrive sound. Not great when you jam in 400 sq foot room and play shows at coffee shops.

With my dual I jam with the volume at about 3 or 4, but we have a room the size of a closet. In live situations I often have the sound person trying to get me to turn down and inevitably I end up between 2-4 on the dial. If Id been using a triple, all my saturation would be gone leaving behind a crusty grungy guitar tone which Im definately not after.

Tube screamer pedals work well in that situation though. - Wed, 16 Dec 2009 11:06am Edited: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 11:10am
FISH
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I also use a dual. I agree with Mike that the difference is pretty much the output. single is 50w, duals are 100w and triples are 150w. Keep in mind the future maintnence costs as well, Replacing tubes on a Triple is gonna cost you a shitload of money. Mine was done just before I bought it for a price tag of 400$. If you can find an older used dual they're much more sought after. Check this out for some info and history.

http://www.theboogiearchives.com/2ch_dual_recto.html

well on the duals at least. - Wed, 16 Dec 2009 11:16am
Dopebilly
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I have an old triple just put all new tubes in it cost under 250$, sounds better now that the stock mesa tubes are out.

the difference is in the amount of rectifier tubes used..
1 = single = up to 50 watts
3= triple= upto 150 watts.. blah blah blah

when you use tube rectification the output is less you need to go to silicone (diode) for full power. you also gotta get the opto switching in the right position and channels doubled up for Max out put.

I stick with tube rectification and only double up when it's time to get loud. so I like the triple, but I do think they (recto) are a little sterile and get lost in the mix.

if your stuck on mesa check out the lone star special with 4 = EL84 sounds a lot warmer than rectumfriers.

If ya got a bunch of money try Matamps they rock
if your lucky get an old Garnet "Deputy" or "BTO" - Wed, 16 Dec 2009 7:29pm
wil
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thanks for all the info guys! i think i'm gonna go for the dual recto, its 1400$ at L&M, so if you want to get rid of one for around that price let me know, it could maybe save me some money and make you some. - Thu, 17 Dec 2009 4:19am
Fableway
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get a Hughes and Kettner or a Laney. Mesa is overrated and overpriced. Peavey also has a new Eddie Van Halen amp coming out, check it out. - Thu, 17 Dec 2009 4:02pm
Lucius
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Link to the Peavey Van halen head please. I thought he was with Fender still. Cheers, Lucius - Fri, 18 Dec 2009 8:30am
Mike S
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Lucius.. 5150 ring a bell?

Dopebilly, what brand tubes did you replace the MB tubes with? - Fri, 18 Dec 2009 9:46am
soj
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hey Wil contact me and make an offer, i've got the dual you need. - Fri, 18 Dec 2009 11:47am
Lucius
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The 5150 is not NEW (key word in the above sentence). Perhaps they announced something at NAMM that I didn't know about, which is why I asked. Cheers, Lucius - Fri, 18 Dec 2009 3:09pm Edited: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 3:09pm
Berry McCocener
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mike, lucius is right.

peavey does NOT make a 5150. they used to, it is now made as the 6505.

evh contracts fender to make the 5150. - Sat, 19 Dec 2009 1:05pm
Fableway
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-from the Peavey website:

"The 6505 is also the relaunch of the 5150 Series, the immensely popular amplifiers Peavey designed with Edward Van Halen."


You knew what I meant.

http://www.peavey.com/products/browse.cfm/action/detail/cat/306/item/116180/number/00575660/6505%C2%AE;Head.cfm - Sun, 3 Jan 2010 2:40pm
Lucius
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The 6505+ is not new. I has been around for at least 6 years. In fact the 5150 III (with fender) has been around for 3 years or so. You posted something during namm week which is why I figured you had some information (like perhaps he moved back to peavey). If I knew what you meant I wouldn't have said "post a link please".
welcome to livevictoria, the queen of all misinformations! Cheers, Lucius - Tue, 5 Jan 2010 7:00am
trevor corey
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"queen", lol
I always read Luscious' posts - Tue, 5 Jan 2010 11:57am
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