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| Vincent F. Evans User Info... | As of today, the list below are resources listed on this site as "Unconfirmed." As many of the musicians who use http://www.livevictoria.com know, it can be frustrating and tedious to contact or attempt contacting venues and resources without knowing if your Email messages are being received. It can also be a colossal waste of time and energy - we'd all rather send messages and promo information, etc., to addresses we know are being monitored and will be responded to. So, if you have any direct contact with the proprietors of any of the resources listed below, please contact them and inform them that they need to update their profiles and begin taking advantage of one of the best FREE local promotional services available. It may speed up their response if you tell them that not updating their profile makes it look like they don't care. 17 Mile Pub (Sooke BC) Alix Goolden Performance Hall (Victoria BC) Ambrosia Event Centre (Victoria BC) Archie Browning Sports Centre (Victoria BC) Army and Navy Club (Victoria BC) Art Gallery Of Greater Victoria (Victoria BC) The Back Door (Victoria BC) Bartholomews (Victoria BC) Bayanihan Community Centre (Victoria BC) Bay St. Armoury (Victoria BC) Beacon Hill Bandshell (Victoria BC) Barcode (Victoria BC) Bard and Banker (Victoria BC) Esquimalt Rec Center (Victoria BC) Garth Homer Center (Victoria BC) Heckler's Bar & Grill (Victoria BC) Jellyfish Lounge (Victoria BC) The Marquee Room (Victoria BC) My Bar and Grill (Victoria BC) Pro Pat Legion (Victoria BC) Riverside Inn (Lake Cowichan BC) Serious Coffee - Cook St. (Victoria BC) Serious Coffee - Esquimalt (Victoria BC) Serious Coffee on Broad St (Victoria BC) Ship Point (Inner Harbour) (Victoria BC) Stationhouse Pub (Victoria BC) Union Pacific After Dark (Victoria BC) Verjus Restaurant (Victoria BC) Bear Mountain Arena (Victoria BC) The Bengal Lounge (Victoria BC) The Bent Mast (Victoria BC) Bert Richman Auditorium (Victoria BC) Big Bad John's (Victoria BC) Bird Of Paradise (Victoria BC) Black Stilt Coffee House (Victoria BC) The Blethering Place (Victoria BC) The Boneyard (Victoria BC) Braefoot Activity Centre (Victoria BC) Brentwood Bay Community Hall (Victoria BC) Brickyard Pizza (Victoria BC) Buffy's Pub (Sooke BC) Buon Amici's Coffee (Victoria BC) Butchart Gardens (Victoria BC) Camosun College - Gibson Auditorium (Victoria BC) Canoe (Victoria BC) Centennial Square (Victoria BC) Centennial United Church (Victoria BC) Central Baptist Church (Victoria BC) Chequered Flag Pub Style Restaurant () Christ Church Cathedral (Victoria BC) The Clubhouse (Victoria BC) Colwood Pacific Activity Centre (Victoria BC) Cook's Landing Lounge (Victoria BC) The Cook Street Moka House (Victoria BC) Cornerstone Christian Fellowship (Victoria BC) Country Rose Pub (Victoria BC) The Craigdarroch Castle (Victoria BC) Darcy's Pub (Victoria BC) The Dinner Theatre (Victoria BC) Downtown Community Activity Center (Victoria BC) Element (Victoria BC) EMCS (Victoria BC) Eric Martin Pavillion Theatre (Victoria BC) Esquimalt Community Theatre (Victoria BC) Esquimalt Legion (Victoria BC) Evolution (Victoria BC) Fairfield United Church (Victoria BC) Fat Teddy's (Victoria BC) Felicita's Campus Pub / Vertigo Nightclub (Victoria BC) Fernwood Community Centre (Victoria BC) Fernwood Inn (Victoria BC) The Fifty Fifty Arts Collective (Victoria BC) Fireside Grill (Victoria BC) Fire and Water Lounge (Victoria BC) First Metropolitan United Church (Victoria BC) The Flipside (Victoria BC) Floyds Diner (Victoria BC) The Fort Street Cafe (Victoria BC) Foxtails Lounge (Victoria BC) Friday's (Victoria BC) Garden City United Church (Victoria BC) The Garry Oak Room (Victoria BC) The Goose & Trestle Pub (Victoria BC) The Green Goddess Cafe (Victoria BC) The Grindstone Cafe (Victoria BC) Harbour Towers Hotel (Victoria BC) Heritage Lounge (Victoria BC) Hermann's Jazz Club (Victoria BC) Hotel Grand Pacific (Victoria BC) Hush (Victoria BC) Iaso Gallery (Victoria BC) Irish Times Pub (Victoria BC) Isabel Reader Theatre (Victoria BC) James Bay Coffee & Books (Victoria BC) James Bay Community Centre (Victoria BC) James Bay Inn (Victoria BC) James Joyce Bistro (Victoria BC) Jewish Community Centre (Victoria BC) JK Do Forno Caffè (Victoria BC) John's Place (Victoria BC) Juan De Fuca (Victoria BC) Khona Cafe (Victoria BC) KnockanBack Grill (Victoria BC) Koffi Coffee Shop (Victoria BC) Lambrick Park (Victoria BC) Langford Legion (Victoria BC) La Piola. (Victoria BC) Laurel Point Inn Terrace (Victoria BC) Leonardo da Vinci Centre (Victoria BC) Linden House (Victoria BC) Little Fernwood (Victoria BC) Logan's Pub (Victoria BC) Log House Pub (Victoria BC) The Lowdown (Victoria BC) Ma Miller's Pub (Victoria BC) Marigold Boy Scout Hall (Victoria BC) Market Square (Victoria BC) Martin Batchelor Gallery (Victoria BC) The Mary Winspear Centre (Sidney) (Sidney BC) McMorran's Beach House (Victoria BC) McPherson Playhouse (Victoria BC) The Mermaid Lounge (Victoria BC) Metchosin Community Hall (Victoria BC) Metro Studio (Victoria BC) Michele Pujol Room - Uvic SUB (Victoria BC) The Ministry of Casual Living (Victoria BC) The Mint (Victoria BC) Moonraker Art House (Sidney BC) Moxie's (Victoria BC) Murph's place Pub (Victoria BC) N. Douglas Pentecostal (Victoria BC) Namaste Metaphysical Cafe (Victoria BC) The New Wave Performance Center (Sooke BC) The Norway House (Victoria BC) Oak Bay Auditorium (Victoria BC) Oak Bay High Theatre (Victoria BC) Oak Bay Serious Coffee (Victoria BC) Oak Bay Teen Centre (Victoria BC) Oaklands Community Center (Victoria B.C.) Ocean Pointe Resort (Victoria BC) Old Bailey Pub (Victoria BC) Open Space (Victoria BC) Orange Hall (Victoria BC) Pacific Fleet Club (Victoria BC) Parkland Secondary (Sidney BC) Pearkes Rec Centre (Victoria BC) Pearkes Recreation Centre (Victoria BC) Pearks Ross Room (Victoria BC) pedestrian ! productions (Victoria BC) Penny Farthing Pub (Victoria BC) Phillip T. Young Recital Hall (Uvic) (Victoria BC) Phoenix Theatre (Victoria BC) Pioneer Park (Victoria BC) Plutos (Victoria BC) Pondside Music (Victoria BC) PrimeTime (Victoria BC) Princess Mary Restaurant (Victoria BC) Pup N Cup Doggie Boutique Cafe (Victoria BC) Railside Grill (Victoria BC) The Rathskeller (Victoria BC) The Reef (Victoria BC) Ricochet's Cafe (Victoria BC) The Ridge Playhouse (Victoria BC) Ristorante La Piola (Victoria BC) Robin and Winifred Wood Recital Hall (Victoria BC) Ross Bay Pub (Victoria BC) Royal Theatre (Victoria BC) Royal Victoria Yacht Club (Victoria BC) R & W Wood Recital Hall (Victoria BC) Sacred Grounds (Victoria BC) SANUK Asian + Fusion (Victoria BC) Sauce Bar and Grill (Victoria BC) Save-On-Foods Memorial Centre (Victoria BC) Serious Coffee at Fort and Foul Bay (Victoria BC) Serious Coffee in Sidney (Sidney BC) Serious Coffee on Blanshard (Victoria BC) Ships Point (Inner Harbour) (Victoria BC) The Shoal Point Moka House (Victoria BC) Six Mile Pub (Victoria BC) Smiths Pub (Victoria BC) Sooke Community Hall (Victoria BC) Sooke Flats (Victoria BC) Sooke River Flats (Victoria BC) Sooke Sk8 Park (Victoria BC) Sounds Like Coffee (Victoria BC) South Bay Pub and Restaurant (Victoria BC) Spectrum Community Theatre (Victoria BC) Spinnakers (Victoria BC) Spiral Cafe (Victoria BC) St. Andrew's Presbyterian (Victoria BC) St. John The Divine (Victoria BC) St. Lukes Hall (Victoria BC) St. Mary's Anglican Church (Victoria BC) St. Peter's Anglican Church (Victoria BC) Stelly's School (mpr) (Victoria BC) Stellys Secondary Theatre (Victoria BC) St Johns United Church (Victoria BC) St Matthias Church (Victoria BC) Sucasa Lounge (Victoria BC) Sugar (Victoria BC) The Superior (Victoria BC) Swans (Victoria BC) Swiftsure Lounge (Victoria BC) Topo's (Victoria BC) The Trackside Art Gallery (Victoria BC) Truth Centre (Victoria BC) Tudor House (Victoria BC) Ukrainian Cultural Centre (Victoria BC) The Underground (Vic) (Victoria BC) Undisclosed (Victoria BC) Union Pacific Coffee (Victoria BC) University Centre Farquhar Auditorium (Victoria BC) Upper Deck (Victoria BC) The Upside Teen Activity Center (Victoria BC) The Upstairs Cabaret (Victoria BC) UVic's Clearihue Bldg (specifc class info upon registration) (Victoria BC) UVic Visual Arts Building (Victoria BC) Velox Rugby Club (Victoria BC) Vertigo (Victoria BC) Victoria Conservatory Of Music (Victoria BC) Victoria Curling Club (Victoria BC) Victoria Edelweiss Club (Victoria BC) Victoria Event Centre (Victoria BC) Victoria Folk Music Society (Victoria BC) Vista 18 (Victoria BC) Waterwheel Pub (Langford BC) Wood Recital Hall (Victoria BC) Xchanges Gallery (Victoria BC) - Thu, 3 Dec 2009 2:11pm Edited: Thu, 3 Dec 2009 2:11pm | ||
| Curmudgeon Rocker User Info... | thank GOD my band isn't on there! - Thu, 3 Dec 2009 2:41pm | ||
| The Gray Pixie User Info... | Out of curiosity, why are you so concerned with out of date musician and venue profiles? - Thu, 3 Dec 2009 2:59pm | ||
| TheBlack Pixie User Info... | I currently don't have access to the Brentwood Hall's profile, as it changed hands, but as far as I know it won't be hosting anymore shows. Unless I work a miracle - Fri, 4 Dec 2009 10:04pm | ||
| steve99 User Info... | Maybe you should be more concerned about all the bands you ripped off when you had that "contest" for the compilation cd. Yes, THAT one, the one where you collected $20 from every band who entered, than asked them for PROFESSIONAL quality photographs (at their expense) from the ones that "won". Oh right, you never did put out that cd, did you? We all thought you skipped town. I say that we all watch your profile and everyone that was ripped off by you should show up at your next show. There's been people looking for you, Vincent. - Sun, 6 Dec 2009 12:35pm | ||
| Mr. Hell User Info... | This sounds juicy. Let me know when you are all going to see this show. I have got to check this out. - Sun, 6 Dec 2009 12:47pm | ||
| TheGray Pixie User Info... | CAGE MATCH! - Sun, 6 Dec 2009 1:31pm | ||
| trevor corey User Info... | Twenty bucks AND a photo. OMG How have you survived this terrible injustice? - Sun, 6 Dec 2009 2:15pm | ||
| steve99 User Info... | You're missing the point. I don't care about the 20 bucks (well, actually it's not nice to lose 20 bucks, but anyways...) , it's the fact that he ran a contest, charging a $20 "entry fee", and never gave away the "prize". Someone told me that he had over 600 songs entered. And it's not the photo, it's HIRING a professional photographer that can cost some real dough. He absolutely insisted that the photos were done professionally... The long & short of it was he ripped off a lot of people in the music community in Victoria, and a lot of musicians have no money to begin with. he grabbed everyone's money, then made them spend more. - Sun, 6 Dec 2009 2:41pm | ||
| trevor corey User Info... | Who are we talking about? I thought you were picking on a Pixie - Sun, 6 Dec 2009 2:56pm | ||
| trevor corey User Info... | my bad yeah, twelve grand is alot - Sun, 6 Dec 2009 3:00pm | ||
| steve99 User Info... | vincent evans aka channeleau - Sun, 6 Dec 2009 3:00pm | ||
| King User Info... | A lot of low-level scams run their course, completely off the radar because everyone says "it's only" $10, $20, $50. Meanwhile some douchbag conman has actually taken thousands from hundreds of innocent or well-meaning, hardworking people. Whatever the amount, it's a piss off to ripped off. - Sun, 20 Dec 2009 2:57pm | ||
| King User Info... | ...and yeah, Id love to see that show too! - Sun, 20 Dec 2009 2:57pm | ||
| Vincent F. Evans User Info... | It is always good to be certain of all the facts before making accusations. Inaccurate, incomplete (or potentially libelous) statements can lead to confusion and undeserved hostility. Personal grievances are best dealt with in person. In 2003, our CD label, Channel Eau (www.channeleau.com) began soliciting submissions for a multi-artist, triple CD compilation album, intended to showcase the diversity of music from this region. We spent years trying to make it fly, against considerable odds. “Music from the Islands of British Columbia” (MIBC) was a project that failed, not a fraud perpetrated upon our fellow musicians. Perhaps we could have done some things better or differently, but please don’t target me or Channel Eau because we tried to help others but failed. From the very conception of MIBC we chose to exclude music by any Channel Eau artists (including myself) thereby avoiding any suggestion of favoritism or exploitation. MIBC It was an opportunity to participate in the promotion of Vancouver Island music (each of the final 60 plus artists whose work would be featured were to receive an equal portion of a 50% share of any profits from sales). MIBC was to be a 3 CD boxed set with a deluxe, glossy, full colour, 65 page booklet. Based on an initial run of 10,000 copies, the production budget for MIBC (not including promotion and distribution) was about $65,000. For a $20 submission fee, artists were invited to submit as many songs as they could fit on one CD. We did not receive $20 per song, as some people have suggested. The total number of submissions received consisted of about 800 songs, submitted by less than 100 artists, amounting to just over $1,600. As clearly stated in our initial solicitation, the submission fee was non-refundable, administrative charge (this was also intended to discourage frivolous and/or redundant duplicate submissions). We spent several hundred hours processing the submissions, selecting the tracks, designing the cover and booklet and writing the contracts. Much time was spent communicating with artists about the contracts and yes, the dreaded “send us a photo that doesn’t look like it was taken with a cell phone or webcam,” issue. Each artist / track featured, was to have a corresponding full page in the booklet. Since one of the intentions of MIBC was to provide a professional vehicle for promotion of the artists whose music was to be featured, we wanted to include high quality photos to represent them. We never insisted that professional photographers were required. The matter of the photos required that as many as 20(!) emails were exchanged with some artists. Apart from our unpaid time, we also put a few thousand of our own “blue collar dollars” into the project. At the time we initiated MIBC we also had an independent financial backer. Unfortunately, a short while after the final selections had been made (due to changes in their personal financial situation, unrelated to MIBC) our financial backer withdrew from the project without contributing any of the promised funds. Despite months of subsequent searching for replacement financing, we were unable to find an alternate means of funding the project. We personally lost quite a bit of money on this project, as our actual administrative costs for MIBC well exceeded the less than $1,600 we received in submission fees. In fact, the demise of MIBC and its attendant demands of money and time contributed significantly to the relative inactivity of http://www.channeleau.com that followed. It is only recently that we have been in a position to commence the revival of http://www.channeleau.com that is currently under way (expect to see and hear new things from us in 2010). Suffice it to say that nobody has lost more sleep over, or has been more disappointed by the demise of MIBC than myself and my colleagues. If any artists who participated in MIBC require further information about the project, please feel free to contact us directly: infeau at channeleau dot com Sincerely, Vincent F. Evans, Director http://www.channeleau.com - Sun, 20 Dec 2009 4:32pm Edited: Sun, 20 Dec 2009 9:19pm | ||
| Jl User Info... | http://thenextweb.com/shareables/2009/12/04/funniest-email-conversation/ that whole post/this thread reminded me of this email thread for some odd reason. - Tue, 22 Dec 2009 6:34am | ||
| JDL User Info... | "Perhaps we could have done some things better or differently, but please don’t target me or Channel Eau because we tried to help others but failed." while the idea is good; things/compilations like these died out with rocktoria. Smaller focus to hit a better "target audience"(lol, thank you CV for that one). You had a budget of $64k? And you still had shortcomings? You did not provide recording nor any other materials aside from jacket and booklet design(of which 60 pages would be devoted to each artist; 1 page per artist... so they provided the material for you to place on a template, less than 2 hrs work for any graphic designer). Of which can be contracted out from that $64K(at less than $5k), for 10,000 copies would run you less than $10k(Im just in the middle of jacket and booklet design for the band Im in) leaving you with... $54k, duplication of the cd with master, less than $.60/copy with 30,000 cd's needing to be duped to match the "3 cd box set" = $18k... What Im getting at is you guys seem to need to sit down and properly assess what it is you want to achieve, instead of promises of grandure met with failure. As much as its a great idea, sometimes a more focused approach will help. "Apart from our unpaid time, we also put a few thousand of our own “blue collar dollars” into the project." what happened to the production budget of $64k????????? "At the time we initiated MIBC we also had an independent financial backer." what happened to the production budget of $64k????????? "Unfortunately, a short while after the final selections had been made (due to changes in their personal financial situation, unrelated to MIBC) our financial backer withdrew from the project without contributing any of the promised funds." what happened to your project production budget of $64k???? You seemed to have worked that out before financial backing or did you guys put up the money first, in hopes of having the "financial backers" not pull the plug? Basically, they waited to see what your product would be capable of before giving any funds up? Sure there's 2 sides to every coin; but lets face it, you made an empty promise and its come back to bite you in the arse. "We personally lost quite a bit of money on this project, as our actual administrative costs for MIBC well exceeded the less than $1,600 we received in submission fees." But you had a budget that was understood, no? I do not see how you can put together a product without a budget to back you up? I am sure you all meant well with this project and its shit to hear things like this dont work out; but again, let's be honest... you guys were in over your heads. 1 cd with the best artists(in your minds), easy to make; easy to sell.*(stuff like this would sell in coffee shops for sure, but a 3 disc box set??) - Tue, 22 Dec 2009 6:56am | ||
| Vincent F. Evans User Info... | JDL - you repeatedly asked the question, "what happened to the production budget of $64k?????????" You partly answered this yourself when you quoted from my previous post: "At the time we initiated MIBC we also had an independent financial backer." As also stated im my previous post: "Unfortunately, a short while after the final selections had been made (due to changes in their personal financial situation, unrelated to MIBC) our financial backer withdrew from the project without contributing any of the promised funds." As stated at the end of my previous post: "If any artists who participated in MIBC require further information about the project, please feel free to contact us directly: infeau at channeleau dot com." Sincerely, Vincent F. Evans Director http://www.channeleau.com - Tue, 22 Dec 2009 2:08pm Edited: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 3:05pm | ||
| E Neptune User Info... | Well Vincent Good Luck! Thanks for your your call. - Mon, 5 Apr 2010 3:34am Edited: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 4:34am | ||
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