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3rd Annual Island Music Awards
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| M*POWER Events User Info... | Artist Call for Submissions. Starting Monday, Feb.2, find application & info @ http://www.islandmusicawards.com Deadline: Feb.27. ~Kasper. - Fri, 30 Jan 2004 7:46pm | ||
| The One After Two User Info... | Is this different than what is going on with Monday Mag? I'm new. - Fri, 30 Jan 2004 8:03pm | ||
| M*POWER Events User Info... | Yes, Monday Magazine's "M Awards" and the Island Music Awards are entirely different. Monday Magazine's Awards were started one year after the first IMA's. JK - Fri, 30 Jan 2004 8:04pm | ||
| _Griphin_ User Info... | How many bands can you enter for the awards?!? It seems there's a lot of talent, but not too many bands are entering. Beats me why. Let's hope this years awards aren't a total failure technical wise. Have you also talked with Rogers Cable to broadcast the show live?!? Many questions, few answers. - Fri, 30 Jan 2004 8:52pm | ||
| M*POWER Events User Info... | You can enter as many different bands as you want, as long as the recording for each was released in the current year past (Jan.2003 to Feb.2004). Last year's awards show had very few technical problems, considering that there were transitions between 20 bands and several presenters. The scope of what is involved for a production such as this would surprise you. I have seen more technical problems at shows with 2 bands. As for artist submissions, it is the artists who have a positive outlook and are genuinely concerned with furthering their career that apply, so I suppose that translates into the fact that there were only 45 artists last year with such an outlook. Hopefully, more artists will realize this year that this is a positive collective initiative for independent music on Vancouver Island. There you are, sir - many questions...and many answers. Good day to ya=0) ~JK - Fri, 30 Jan 2004 9:04pm | ||
| Zippgunn User Info... | "As for artist submissions, it is the artists who have a positive outlook and are genuinely concerned with furthering their career (sic) that apply". Really? You could add that it's the artists to whom nominating themselves for a meaningless local award is a smart move in "furthering their career" and who harbour the desire to be signed to a major label and get played on mainstream radio who apply, that is if you wanted to be accurate. After all it seems odd that there is nobody in the M Power hierarchy that can sort out who should be worthy of an M Power award. Or is it that having the bands nominate themselves ensures that they will actually show up to the gala event (perhaps even in a limo to make the spectacle all the more grand) around which this whole exercise revolves. The way I see it if you were to pay tribute to the most talented and successful independant Victoria artists you could hardly exclude the likes of, say, Carolyn Mark, Frog Eyes, Chet and dp smith to name only 4 that have made serious inroads into the rest of North America's independant music scene. But none of these artists will ever be courted by a major label and I daresay none will be represented at the M Power awards, probably because most of them will almost certainly have better things to do that night. Without genuine representation by the truly deserving artists these awards are nothing more than a small group of artists wallowing in a pathetic display of self aggreandizement. And I wonder exactly what Mr. Kasper gets out of this whole charade; I would be very surprised if he doesn't make money out of it, although to read his posts he does it out of the goodness of his heart. Comments? - Sat, 31 Jan 2004 11:23am | ||
| snuh User Info... | Limo's are F-U-N!!! Sure as shit. Load it up with a couple coolers of tasty cold beverages, 'bunch of yer favourite tunes..Lots of friends...Especially if you've never been in one. S'pose the feeling wears off if you're in one all the time... - Sat, 31 Jan 2004 12:24pm | ||
| _Griphin_ User Info... | But have those artists decided against a major label so that they can have more control over their own work?!? And have they looked at better distribution models for their CDs?!? I tried looking for the last Carolyn Mark CD once, couldn't find it anywhere in Victoria (perhaps I'm overlooking something here). - Sat, 31 Jan 2004 1:59pm | ||
| Mr. Hell User Info... | Is it that time of year already? That time of year when the board gets lit up with the old, unresolved debate about the M*Power awards. To make it truly worthwhile for the bands, each band who participates should be treated to all-you-can-drink beer and vodka. You do that and I will form another band and show up! - Sat, 31 Jan 2004 2:07pm | ||
| Shaggy User Info... | Dear god, we hear the same crap about the awards every year. Give it a fucking rest allready. JK wants to put on an awards show? Good on him. Don't like it? Don't support it. Most of the people here have probably never met him yet they seem to have these grandiose ideas on what his drive is in doing this. Unless you've met him, talked to him for more than 2 mins or even remotely know him, you don't know shit and your petty attempts to down on him for doing so show how fucking childish the users of this board can be. The recent battle o the bands was no different, yet there wasn't even a small percentile of whining and moaning about that. Think about that for just a min then go back to your midget pr0n. - Sat, 31 Jan 2004 7:05pm | ||
| [+} User Info... | omg zippgunn you are sooo indie rock. - Sat, 31 Jan 2004 7:25pm | ||
| Zippgunn User Info... | Yeah yeah, I know I should just leave them well enough alone and let them die their natural death, but the quote noted above pissed me off enough so that I had to put my 2 cents worth in. Such pompous bullshit simply cannot go unchallenged. So let me get this straight; If I don't nominate myself in the "best producer" category then I have no hope of getting an M Power award for that category? This is ridiculous and everybody knows it; mention the "M Power awards" to any industry insider located outside of Victoria and you will get a blank stare 99% of the time and hysterical laughter the other 1% of the time. And since the awards don't even remotely represent the most important and influential artists working out of this sleepy town, exactly what function do they have? Are they just a clever promotional device used by media-savvy bands to "further their careers"? Or perhaps a device to lend some credibility (and perhaps money) to Mr. Kasper (who, if I remember correctly, is a somewhat faded folksinger from Ontario who has resided in these parts for only a few years)? If so then they are dishonest, and, as such, should be avoided like the plague by any band that seriously wants to "further their career", especially outside of Victoria. And I must congratulate Mr. Kasper for his truly Orwellian use of the word "alternative" (I think what he means to say is "mainstream", no?) - Sat, 31 Jan 2004 8:33pm | ||
| Japanese Air Force User Info... | Off topic, but James: got your message, sorry, I had a gig tonight, otherwise I would've been all over checking your show. Hope it went well. ~JAF (I want my Ginsu knives) - Sun, 1 Feb 2004 3:13am | ||
| Zippgunn User Info... | Sorry I meant "independant", not "alternative". My mistake. - Sun, 1 Feb 2004 11:17am | ||
| M*POWER Events User Info... | re: "Or perhaps a device to lend some credibility (and perhaps money) to Mr. Kasper (who, if I remember correctly, is a somewhat faded folksinger from Ontario who has resided in these parts for only a few years)?" If you want facts, the production was in the red (i.e. lost money) the first year, and the second year, the profit compensated me for approximately 1% of the hundreds of hours I spent on this production. I don't know about "goodness of my heart," but I do it because I know the challenges of being an independent musician, and I want the independent musicians on the island to have the same opportunities for career advancement as those on the mainland and in the rest of the country. Plus, it's supposed to be fun - try enjoying it instead of burying yourself under a dreary blanket of cynicism and skepticism. As for me being from Ontario, that's news to me. I've been performing & producing in Victoria since 1995, with the exception of the 10 months I spent in Ontario in 1999, recording and upgrading my event production training. I've lived in B.C. my whole life (grew up in Ukee). So, I don't know, you might want to check your facts before making assumptions or running with hearsay. re: "somewhat faded folk singer from Ontario" - that's awesome, I'll add that to my list of negative quotes on my e-mail signature (99% of which come from this board, so thank-you:). I may even title my next album (due out later this year) "somewhat faded folk singer." awesome. Some of my other favourites are "Take your piece of worthless shit awards and stick them up your ass, you bald-headed fag" (bald? gay? hm, again, news to me...not that there's anything wrong with those things) and "M*POWER Awards are not real awards" and "Kasper is not a great guy" (Do I know you?). re: "So let me get this straight; If I don't nominate myself in the "best producer" category then I have no hope of getting an M Power award for that category? This is ridiculous and everybody knows it; mention the "M Power awards" to any industry insider located outside of Victoria and you will get a blank stare 99% of the time and hysterical laughter the other 1% of the time." Have you actually spoken with "any industry insider outside of Victoria"? Because I can tell you that not only do you have to apply for any other awards show (how else can the jury evaluate your recording if you don't provide them with a copy of it?) - including The Junos & The Indies (Canadian Independent Music Awards) - you also have to pay hundreds of dollars per entry per category. Take advantage of this one while it's still free! As for your rather confusing discussion re: "mainstream" and "independent," again, I think you are grossly misinformed. Do you think because local media brings awareness to the event that it is automatically disqualified as independent? How else is one to bring awareness to the public about any event except through local publicity and advertising? Is it not the goal and purpose of any form of entertainment to attract an audience? The media is there for you - that is their job - to keep the public informed of community (& world) events. Take advantage of their willingness to embrace any form of entertainment, independent or not. By being cynical, you are only creating your own roadblocks for your career. And, incidentally, to cite an example of an IMA sponsor, OK Radio Group (100.3 The Q! and The Zone @ 91-3) is an independent company who, through, diligence and hard work, have built their company from the ground up. Come on guys, help me out here. Try to get past your cynicism and give this event a chance. I encounter enough roadblocks on the way to keeping this event alive - it would be nice if you guys could support it. But I understand that is your choice. Peace. JK P.S. Thanks, Shaggy. and No Worries, JAF - I'm performing at The Namaste every Saturday now (8-10pm). - Sun, 1 Feb 2004 3:19pm | ||
| Stefan User Info... | Why the hell is everyone so down on the M*POWER awards?? Sounds like a kickass event and a great opportunity for local bands to get a bit of free publicity... Personally, im very glad there are people out there who are willing to selflessly help promote local bands, and I would like to thank JK (and everyone els involved) for putting this on and i look forward to next year'a awards when my bands demo is out and we can enter. anywhos... i didnt think JK deserved all the slagging he was getting and i wanted to say something about it. later. - Sun, 1 Feb 2004 3:44pm | ||
| Nik "poop"Olaz User Info... | awards shows...no. - Sun, 1 Feb 2004 8:18pm | ||
| Zippgunn User Info... | Giving away booze and CD's and shirts is cool; that shows that you're not totally obsessed with the material trappings of rock'n'roll and that, perhaps, you're really only in it for the music. Hiring a limo on your own dime to pick up a meaningless "award" that you had to nominate yourself to get completely reverses that perception and makes you look like an egotistical fool. Sorry but I calls 'em as I sees 'em. - Sun, 1 Feb 2004 11:38pm | ||
| Shaggy User Info... | "Hiring a limo on your own dime to pick up a meaningless "award" that you had to nominate yourself to get completely reverses that perception and makes you look like an egotistical fool." Or it makes them look like a band that was out to have some fun for a night on their own dime. Only an anal retentive idiot would think otherwise. I just call em as I see em.... - Mon, 2 Feb 2004 12:22am | ||
| Zippgunn User Info... | Oh well different strokes for different folks I suppose; my idea of fun is considerably different than yours. And contrary to what Mr. Kasper says, I once got nominated for a West Coast music award and you can be sure that I didn't nominate myself. Naturally it was for a record that I had nothing to do with and naturally it was won by some industry heavyweight (I forget who) my name being put forward, I suppose, to lend a little "street cred" to the proceedings (or cannon fodder depending on how you view these things). I'll stop dissing all you folks now. Have fun, just don't dislocated your shoulders slapping yourselves on the back. (P.S. Can one nominate somebody else for an award in this shindig?) - Mon, 2 Feb 2004 8:19am | ||
| ha ha ha User Info... | Zipp Gunn......Its okay man...people like you...and yes we know you have put alot of work in over the last 20 years recording music...you sound bitter attention starved and underappreciated....come here big guy I'll give you a hug....come to momma ssssshhhhhh....it'll be okay...one day they'll be sorry for ever ignoring you .....come on lets get some ice cream! - Mon, 2 Feb 2004 12:58pm | ||
| Old Goat User Info... | that Pearl Jam sound sure is tired. - Mon, 2 Feb 2004 2:17pm | ||
| mahobanotojo User Info... | listen, i helped james kasper with the lights at last years show @ legends and my band played there, got drunk there, met a lot of other really cool bands from victoria who don't seem to have a chip on their shoulder about having a badass party and giving away some rocks with glass, pretty lights and writing on them to fellow musicians who do a damn good job of rocking on a regular basis, giving us all something to do for one more night in this all too small city.....james works harder than a lot of us to promote all the musicians in victoria's scene and its more likely that the guy with the biggest ego is the one who accuses other bands of being sell-outs.....dude, these are the island music awards, nobody's making any fucking money off it, maybe a couple hundred dollars...ooohh what commercial fiends! db - Mon, 2 Feb 2004 2:21pm | ||
| Zippgunn User Info... | How are the award winners determined, by the way? In other words who picks the winners? Does everyone who nominates themselves actually get on the ballot, or is there a winnowing out procedure? Does Mr. Kasper still have the haircut that I saw on the cover of the Kasper Veil CD in the used racks at Lyle's? - Mon, 2 Feb 2004 4:04pm | ||
| M*POWER Events User Info... | Thanks, Stefan, DB#1, & DB #2. Zipp, it would save everyone a lot of explaining if you just checked out the website - http://www.islandmusicawards.com - the application & all the info is there. and no, I don't still have the same haircut as on the last Kasper Veil CD - I shaved my head for that photo shoot, just for fun. Actually, mr.h., we have talked since then, but I guess you don't recall. And, also, you might find it interesting that last year, you were in the running for The Silver Fox Award (for longevity & contribution to the Island Music Scene) - this award was not selected through nomination but rather through a media & musician vote. Thought you might like to know that. P.S. I think Carolyn Mark, DP Smith, etc. should totally be involved - if it's the technicality of filling out the application yourself that bothers you, have someone else fill it out for you. rock on. JK - Mon, 2 Feb 2004 4:48pm | ||
| MonkeyWithNoBones User Info... | Well I guess with MPower awards, you can skip the whole "I'm just honored to be nominated" quote. I'd have to side with Zippgun here - It's pointless, and completly lacks merrit. Sure I think if somebody is going to make a legitimate effort to support the local "scene" go right ahead - though I don't think this is the right way to go about it to say the least. The last thing this city needs is another Rocktoria, which honestly makes local talent look like a bad parody of itself. I truly think that one of the best things about living in Victoria, is the fact that in a small city - the best acts play just for the sake that they enjoy making music, or need to or they'll go nuts. No agents to impress, no inhibitions. That's where the inguinuity kicks in. The way I see it - it's easy to fill out a narrow online application, it's as easy as convincing a drunk groupie to get on her knees once you've convinced her you'll be the "next big thing" - but that doesn't say anything about your talent, creativity, or originality. .... - Mon, 2 Feb 2004 8:02pm | ||
| MonkeyWithNoBones User Info... | and yes. The whole limo thing still makes my sides sore. Perhaps this time around you can show up on white horses that have been trained to run in slow motion. Now that would be a pointless spectacle. Seems to be the next natural step. - Mon, 2 Feb 2004 8:30pm | ||
| Kasper User Info... | I'm down with riding in on slow motion white horses AND rewarding artists for talent, creativity, and originality. That's what it is in a nutshell: having fun while celebrating the local scene. If you don't want to do it to impress industry people, then do it because you get to hang out with the whole music community in one room, drink free beer, and have a good time. Do it for whatever reason works for you. Or don't. But I really do like the slow motion white horses idea (perhaps another new name for your band, Mr. Sick?:). - Mon, 2 Feb 2004 8:52pm | ||
| _Griphin_ User Info... | So exactly why is everyone against these awards?!? I mean, don't you wanna get awarded for your hard work?!? Perhaps they mean nothing, but better then well, nothing right? - Mon, 2 Feb 2004 11:30pm | ||
| Zippgunn User Info... | In my eyes I already get awarded for my hard work; I get the result of that hard work, the music, the experiences etc. I feel that to expect some sort of slap on the back for doing it is kind of silly, kind of like getting an award for being the best waitress or something. An awards thing is fine, but for the winners to have to nominate themselves is also kind of weird. Have all the fun you can, folks, I certainly won't try to stop you. I might also point out that Don and I have considerably different ideas about what constitutes rock and roll nirvana ( for me it was putting on, performing in and recording for release a gig with my pal Eugene Chadbourne which was worth a dozen industry awards for me). Don't take your eye off the prize, whatever your prize might be. - Tue, 3 Feb 2004 12:01am | ||
| MonkeyWithNoBones User Info... | "If you don't want to do it to impress industry people, then do it because you get to hang out with the whole music community in one room, drink free beer" hang out with the whole music community in one room? No. That would be nice. But it wouldn't happen here, or any award show. Okay, I'm going to start my own award ceremony. First I'll list the catagorys. Whoever fills it out: neat. (this is where you ctrl - c the below and fill it out yourselves (without nominating yourselves) ------------------------------------------------------- Best Alt. Country Band: Best Metal band: Best Ska band: Best Punk Band: Best sad/sensitive band: Best 'Alt'-rock band: Best Songwriter: Best stage show: Best local banjo player: Best radio show (commercial or community): Best Producer: Best Engineer: Best Male Vocalist: Best Non-Male Vocalist: Best Venue: Best Music magazine (in Victoria): Best Music Web Site (In Victoria): Most interesting LiveVic poster: Most original band: Most unoriginal band: Worst Band: Most Boring Performance: Most horrible venue: ------------------------------------------------------- You ctrl-c'd too much text here ------------------------------------------------------- - Tue, 3 Feb 2004 1:36am | ||
| _Griphin_ User Info... | OK, here we go... Best Alt. Country Band: The Vinigarettes Best Metal band: Meatlocker Seven Best Ska band: King Bong/Greenlaw Ave. Best Punk Band: Alcoholic White Trash Best sad/sensitive band: Armchair Cynics Best 'Alt'-rock band: The Fine Options Best Songwriter: Gary Brainless Best stage show: Self Inflicted (Battle of the Bands) Best local banjo player: Banjo?!? Best radio show (commercial or community): The Zone FM/CFUV Best Producer: Split between Garry Brainless and Best Engineer: Split between Best Male Vocalist: Ratboy Roy (A.W.T.) Best Non-Male Vocalist: Carolyn Mark Best Venue: Lucky Best Music magazine (in Victoria): Hah... that shit that comes from the University of Victoria, or perhaps Camoson Best Music Web Site (In Victoria): Livevictoria.com Most interesting LiveVic poster: Hoosegow/Kegkillers/Balls Deep (with that axe wielding chick) Most original band: Clusterfux Most unoriginal band: HotHotHeat (sorry, felt like slaggin them) Worst Band: There aren't any, you all ROCK! Most Boring Performance: The Span Most horrible venue: That place on fernwood that got shutdown You forgot... best Tape demo... it's either The Vinigarettes-Wing Night or The Clusterflux Most hated personality over last 20 years: Tim Crow Cheapest demo rls'd: Machine Gun Kelly-Fantasize About Nihilism Band that went nowhere quick: Meatwagon - Tue, 3 Feb 2004 2:33am | ||
| MonkeyWithNoBones User Info... | Just fill out the nomination form and stop whining rockstar. - Tue, 3 Feb 2004 2:41am | ||
| _Griphin_ User Info... | aCk.. ya posted before I finished... Best Producer: Split between Garry Brainless and Zippgunn (sorry, I'm blank) Best Engineer: Engineers?!? Rockstar?!? I'm just a fan! - Tue, 3 Feb 2004 2:47am | ||
| Zippgunn User Info... | I think the trophy for the silver fox award should be a frosted glass bust of Charlie Rich. - Tue, 3 Feb 2004 11:08am | ||
| Robnoxious User Info... | How about a lifetime achievement award for either the Dayglo's or No Means No ? I think both bands are in the 2o years plus catagory and have been doing so with little recognition from any industy types especially 'round here. - Tue, 3 Feb 2004 11:19am | ||
| Cordova Bay User Info... | Some great suggestions have been made to this list. Some of the suggestions from last year have been incorporated into this year's event. More suggestions will make the awards better as time progresses. The number of awards must be limited for several reasons: the time factor associated with the award show event precludes too many presentations; each of the physical awards have a (significant) cost associated. There are several types of award processes and the M*POWERS follows a similar path as the JUNO's, the Grammies, The Indies and The Western Music Awards - except the application is free. Magazines tend to "pick" winners or nominees without submissions and applications. 'Monday' comes to mind as one example. 'Real Blues Magazine', a world class publication from the Victoria area, also follows this format. In these cases there are isn't a live show associated with the naming of the winners and there is no trophy to place cost limits other than paper real estate. 'Real Blues' has just named their annual (a bit late) blues awards and I believe the total number of categories is upwards of 200. Industry people do find the M*POWER Awards interesting. I received email today from someone at a commercial radio station in Kamloops who said - "Impressive site for the upcoming Island Music Awards - that would be something great to catch! I was fascinated to see Dave Lennam's name in the winners' list from last year. He and I hung out here for years when he wrote for 'Kamloops This Week', though I last saw him in '99 when I was attending a campus radio conference at UVic." Keep that in mind when you are booking tours in other areas across Canada. The awards are only entering their 3rd year and the recognition factor will continue to grow with time. I remember the early JUNO Awards - started in 1970 and supported by a few Toronto-based journalists and catered by the mother of one of those journalist's. That journalist, Walt Grealis, died just a few weeks ago but was very happy to see his dream grow on a national level. The "Special Achievement" JUNO Award is named in his honour. From tiny acorns mighty oaks may grow... - Wed, 4 Feb 2004 7:53pm | ||
| _Griphin_ User Info... | Very cool! Yeah the M-Powah awardz might not be serious to some people in the local scene, but at least you get noticed. Your bound to disagree with it, but perhaps we should stop arguing as a music community and use it for positive results. - Wed, 4 Feb 2004 10:52pm | ||
| Zippgunn User Info... | Hey Donnie, when the hell did I ever record you? With what band? I'm getting so old and senile (plus I've recorded literally hundreds of bands in this crazy town) that I can't recall the event. And I love the comment about Kamloops and Kelowna. Big time!! Next stop, Whitehorse! - Thu, 5 Feb 2004 11:00am | ||
| Fred the Dragon User Info... | I just don't understand why Zippgunn has to slag all over Kasper. It seems like maybe there's some latent animosity between the two of them. Mr. Henderson, if you feel that strongly against the M*Powers, that's your right. But it's also Kasper's right (and everyone who participates) to hold the event and do what he feels he should to make it successful. Why do you feel it's your privledge to shit all over him for it? I recognize your place in the Victoria music scene and I have nothing but respect for what you've done, but yours is not the only way to do things. If you don't like Kasper and what he's trying to do, say your piece and get over it. It seems like you're on a one man crusade to completely discredit someone who's done nothing but run a small awards show in your town. But, regardless of what James Kasper said, the sound at last year's show was atrocious, some of the worst I've ever heard. But don't blame Kasper for that, blame Legend's soundguy, Bruce McBain. People often blame the venue (Legend's), but the second worst sounding show I saw last year was the Culture show in Market Square during LatinFest. Same sound tech... coincidence? - Thu, 5 Feb 2004 12:34pm | ||
| Shaggy User Info... | It's called a god complex Fred, nothing more and nothing less. In his eyes he's hot shit due to his impressive background in the local music scene. He sounds more like a rock star than most of the folks he attempts to turn those exact words on. Pathetic at best imho. - Thu, 5 Feb 2004 1:45pm | ||
| Mr. Hell User Info... | Bruce McBain. Is that the brother of Stinky John who ran sound at the Icehouse? If so, then a delusional idea of what constitutes sound at a live show runs in the family. Stinky was the worst soundman I have ever seen in action! - Thu, 5 Feb 2004 3:23pm | ||
| Kasper User Info... | Thanks for your first comment, Fred. To be honest, I think I have only met Zipp once, and it was rather uneventful - probably an introduction & handshake - if he has animosity towards me, I don't know where it's coming from. As for the sound, your comments make me think you were not actually in attendance. I was there - I was running the thing, and I can tell you with certainty that the sound man's name was not Bruce. Again, 20 acts, people. Consider the variables that creates for a sound tech. How many shows have you scene that have 20 acts? There were a few problems with the sound, but let's not exaggerate. - Thu, 5 Feb 2004 7:54pm | ||
| Zippgunn User Info... | Geez Louise I'm just pulling yer chains. I have nothing against Kasper (in fact I don't even remember meeting him) and I don't feel "strongly" about the M Power awards; their ilk simply doesn't enter into my universe. Like I said before, go ahead and have fun. I just thought it was funny that somebody could get excited about an e-mail from a commercial rock station in Kamloops. So I have a twisted sense of humour. So sue me. - Thu, 5 Feb 2004 10:22pm | ||
| Nocturna User Info... | Yikes will the MPWR controversy ever end????? We could just cut and paste the related threads from the last two years here and it would read just about the same. Boring! - Fri, 6 Feb 2004 11:59am | ||
| Colin Sick User Info... | Hey give the cripple a break, he only has one lung, what do you expect from him. Zipp I will get you your money a.s.a.p And everyone come to the show this saturday, Dave Lennam will not be attendance (I think) but smallhorse will be, check the listings - Fri, 6 Feb 2004 3:43pm | ||
| I.M.A. User Info... | Thanks for all the publicity, guys, good and bad. You can't buy this kind of publicity. I suppose I could post "My name is Kasper and I like red shiny objects" and it would get 50 posts. Crazy. J.F.Kasper - Mon, 9 Feb 2004 9:02pm | ||
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