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| Adrenaline Animal | Here's a email I recived I thought I'd share it Subject: Fw: New Organized Gasoline Boycott What the heck.... "This is not a chain letter, it's something we can all do and get some,action..... I hear we are going to hit close to $ 0.90 or higher by the summer!! Do you want gasoline prices to come down? We need to take some intelligent, united action. Phillip Hollsworth offered this good idea: This makes MUCH MORE SENSE than the "don't buy gas on a certain day" campaign that was going around last April or May! The oil companies just laughed at that because they knew we wouldn't continue to "hurt" ourselves by refusing to buy gas. It was more of an inconvenience to us than it was a problem for them. BUT, whoever thought of this idea, has come up with a plan that can really work. Please read it and join with us! By now you're probably thinking gasoline priced at about $0.65 is super cheap. Me too! It is currently $ 0.77 for regular unleaded in my area. Now that the oil companies and the OPEC nations have conditioned us to think that the cost of gas is CHEAP at $0.65 - $0.75, we need to take aggressive action to teach them that BUYERS control the marketplace....not sellers. With the price of gasoline going up more each day, we consumers need to take action. The only way we are going to see the price of gas come down is if we hit someone in the pocketbook by not purchasing their gas and we can do that WITHOUT hurting ourselves. How? Since we all rely on our cars, we can't just stop buying gas. But we CAN have an impact on gas prices if we all act together to force a price war. Here's the idea: For the rest of this year, DON'T purchase ANY gasoline from the two biggest companies, Petro Canada and Esso. If they are not selling any gas, they will be inclined to reduce their prices. If they reduce their prices, the other companies will have to follow suit. But to have an impact, we need to reach literally millions of PetroCanada and Esso gas buyers. It's really simple to do!! Now, don't whimp out on me at this point...keep reading and I'll explain how simple it is to reach millions of people! I am sending this note to about thirty people. If each of you send it to at least ten more (30 x 10)... and those 300 send it to at least ten more (300 x 10) and soon, by the time the message reaches the sixth generation of people, we will have reached over THREE MILLION consumers! If those three million get excited and pass this on to ten friends each, then 30 million people will have been contacted! If it goes one level further, you guessed it..... THREE HUNDRED MILLION PEOPLE!!! Again, all you have to do is send this to 10 people. That's all. (If you don'tunderstand how we can reach 300 million and all you have to do is send this to 10 people.... Well, let's face it, you just aren't a mathematician. But I am... so trust me on this one.) How long would all that take? If each of us sends this email out to ten more people within one day of receipt, all 300 MILLION people could conceivably be contacted within the next 8 days!!! I'll bet you I didn't think you and I had that much potential, did you! Acting together we can make a difference. If this makes sense to you, please pass this message on. PLEASE HOLD OUT UNTIL THEY LOWER THEIR PRICES TO THE $0.58 RANGE AND KEEP THEM DOWN. THIS CAN REALLY WORK." GE Canada International Inc. Energy Services Shawn Mclennan Project Leader 511A 51st Street East Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada S7K 6V4 Phone: (306) 244-6454 Fax: (306) 244-6538 Cell: (306) 221-7726 E-mail:[email protected] - Tue, 4 Mar 2003 3:07am | ||
| Spark | excellent idea except, your preaching to a province that elected Gordon Campbell for our leader! Us fucking thick-headed canadians couldn't think back to previous elections to remeber the reasons why he wasn't voted in. So now here we are, I think it works the same for the gas companies. - Tue, 4 Mar 2003 10:34am | ||
| Anonymous | "we need to take aggressive action to teach them that BUYERS control the marketplace....not sellers." if anyone "controls" the marketplace than it's not really much of a marketplace anymore. i don't want to be part of a trade that is controlled by the buyers. the whole point of trade is for the two parties to agree on a price and if one group cotrols the marketplace than this process breaks down. the article is correct about one thing though - if you feel a price is too high than your only method of effective protestment is to not buy the product. - Tue, 4 Mar 2003 11:00am | ||
| Anonymous | Most of the price of a litre of gas is in the taxes, over 40%. Where is that money going? How can they justify it? Why do we put up with it? - Tue, 4 Mar 2003 11:03am | ||
| Anonymous | >"if anyone "controls" the marketplace than it's not really much of a marketplace anymore. i don't want to be part of a trade that is controlled by the buyers. the whole point of trade is for the two parties to agree on a price and if one group cotrols the marketplace than this process breaks down. the article is correct about one thing though"< News flash! Shareholders control the market place. Prices go up to increase profit to make them happy. This isn't including the whole tax issue. - Tue, 4 Mar 2003 11:26am | ||
| Anonymous | ARen't they taxing gas higher to earn money to fix the roads because they're currently falling apart? I thought they decided that was a good plan because otherwise they'd just be raising general taxes and then people who don't drive would be paying also or something. - Tue, 4 Mar 2003 11:27am | ||
| Wreaker of Havoc User Info... | Forget the flower baskets hanging downtown and fix my fucking street! - Tue, 4 Mar 2003 11:40am | ||
| Anonymous | The price increase of 3.5 cents to pay for road improvements is only a small percentage of the taxes they already collect. We've been told before that this tax was to pay for road improvements, where is it all going? - Tue, 4 Mar 2003 11:43am | ||
| SGFBC | go to school you are all wrong. this plan would not work, we all know it. you would have to be pretty dumb, you would have a better chance of getting pot legal. Supply and demand people. The ONLY way to control a marketplace is to reduce the supply. - Tue, 4 Mar 2003 12:01pm | ||
| Anonymous | "News flash! Shareholders control the market place. Prices go up to increase profit to make them happy. ..." Absolutely, my friendly provider of news; that was exactly what I was pointing at. The price of a commodity is set by those that trade it whether it's those that are trading the commodity itself or just a representation of the commodity. Shareholders only care about increased profits because it increases the value of their shares. To make money, however, they need to sell those shares and if the buyers disagree on the value than they won't buy it and the price will necessarily drop. It's mutual. "SGFBC - ... Supply and demand people. ..." Supply and demand is what we've been talking about all along. - Tue, 4 Mar 2003 12:26pm | ||
| The Provider User Info... | Shareholders do not control the marketplace at all. Shares are based on the value of a company, which will go up and down depending on a company's assets, profits, forecasts, and overall market standing. A company does not need to sell any shares or even compete on the exchange. Well over 90% of the companies out there do not sell shares publicly. The value of shares is based on the marketplace, not the other way around. A share is just a way for a company to get more capital. - Tue, 4 Mar 2003 1:18pm | ||
| Anonymous | "Shareholders do not control the marketplace at all. Shares are based on the value of a company, which will go up and down depending on a company's assets, profits, forecasts, and overall market standing." As you said, shares are based on the value of a company which arises from such things as assets, profits, etc. However, these things affect the price by the way they affect the traders opinion of the company. Regardless of what the specifics of a company are, the traders set the price via the buyers and sellers agreeing on a trading price which, if their smart, they'll obtain by taking into account the specifics that you mentioned. So, in fact, the traders DO set the market price. That's the whole idea of a market. - Tue, 4 Mar 2003 1:57pm | ||
| Anonymous | "... The value of shares is based on the marketplace, not the other way around. ..." They're one and the same. The marketplace is, by definition, the trading of shares which itself determines the price of those shares. - Tue, 4 Mar 2003 2:00pm | ||
| The Provider User Info... | You are completely missing the point. If a microsoft share is worth $10 or $5000 you still pay the exact same for windows. Shares are a loan to a company and you hope that the company will do well so you can sell and buy more shares in more companies. Take an economics class, no matter how important Charlie Sheen makes share trading look, the very most shares would affect prices would be about 1%. The only exception is that if a company has sold more than 51% of its shares to holders and the company is doing really, really bad, and it becomes to a point where the shares are worth less then the assets, then they will sell the assets or the company to get what they can from their investments and then you will be able to buy those products/assets at a cheaper rate. If you still can not understand this then may I recommend a book for you: Economic Myths by Luciani - This book looks at 30 major myths that we have regarding economics, and carefully explains why they are myths and how they arose. This is a beginner look into economics and although it is not a light read, it does provide good understanding of topics such as this. - Tue, 4 Mar 2003 2:25pm | ||
| KnifeGhost User Info... | Does anyone know if GE owns a chain of gas stations? Very sneaky, those GE people...... But here's a better idea..... Lets use less gas, and when the prices get cheaper, keep using less and less gas until fuck them..... - Tue, 4 Mar 2003 3:58pm | ||
| Anonymous | Aha. We're referring to different "marketplaces". When you had mentioned it I thought you were referring to the market that exists for trading shares and were trying to say that the companies determine the prices of those shares instead of the shareholders determining it. But, as you were meaning, the marketplace of the commodities themselves has prices set pretty explicitly by the seller. Of course, if a sell price is too high, the buyer plays a part in setting the price by not purchasing the item until it reaches a lower value. I will still check out the book you mentioned and hopefully learn a thing or two. - Tue, 4 Mar 2003 4:52pm | ||
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